[ShepherdsDog]

You haven't got a flipping clue. They don't behave that way except in rare cases, which is why it stands out and investigations are held. There is absolutely no comparison between the Canadian police and the police in nations that use the police as a tool for state oppression. Your severely limited world view is extremely telling when you refer to Canadian police officers as Gestapo and Canadian politicians as fascists.

[Tricks]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I never said it was - but nice try...

Then comparing the police actions to those of Syria, Iran or China doesn't make much sense does it?

[ShepherdsDog]

Seeing as Boots has been to other parts of the world I'm sort of surprised that he would make such a 'comparison'. Sort of like comparing a concrete post to an airbag as a safety feature in a car. Both will stop you in a collision.

[andyt]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Tricks Tricks:

Because containing a crowd for a few hours is the moral equivalent of shooting into a crowd of people right?

I never said it was - but nice try...

OK, now the person who got Toewsed is Toewsing. Where will it end?

[Thanos]

If the Vancouver police and city council had been as proactive in automatically stamping down on any potential street disturbances last June as the Toronto police and city were during the G20, Vancouver wouldn't have gotten the collective black eye, the bad reputation, and the immeasureable embarassment that resulted from the Canucks riot.

[andyt]

If the Toronto police had moved in when the blockheads were doing their thing on Saturday, they wouldn't have had the excuse to go apeshit on peaceful demonstrators on Sunday. Where's the fun in that?

[andyt]

$1:

Overall, the report found that police were woefully unprepared, with officer training “largely delivered electronically,” that officers were “blindly following orders” and using excessive force, “ignor(ing) the basic rights of citizens under the Charter,” and acting unlawfully when they boxed in hundreds of people at the Novotel hotel and at the intersection of Queen St. W. and Spadina Ave.

High-ranking Toronto police commanders overreacted during the G20 summit and assumed an “autocratic structure,” with superior officers giving orders to “take back the streets.”

Good to see there were some good cops out there too:

$1:

Some officers on the ground, however, strongly disagreed with orders coming from the top, and one officer accused the Major Incident Command Centre (MICC) of being “maniacal,” according to an audio recording quoted in the report. Other officers disobeyed direct orders to corral people at Queen and Spadina and “personally removed non-protesters and peaceful protesters.”

$1:

McNeilly concludes that police had legitimate concerns and faced challenges tracking “black bloc” vandals intent on violence and criminal activity as they hid within crowds of peaceful demonstrators.

But the OIPRD reports that police also had a responsibility to balance law enforcement with citizens' rights to demonstrate.

He concluded some officers used “excessive force” to clamp down on any and all protesters, with Toronto police commanders acting on orders for mass arrests.

$1:

The OIPRD concludes that many of the arrests of peaceful demonstrators were illegal — without proper warrants or reasonable grounds — and that the conditions and treatment of prisoners inside a makeshift detention centre were "improper and unnecessary"

Chief Blair admitted during an afternoon news conference that his force made mistakes during the G20. "In hindsight, there are some things that certainly we could have done better," he said. "The challenges we faced were unprecedented."

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Sorry Lemmy, that's retarded.

It's not their job to police the streets, nor are they prepared to go to jail for doing a job that's not theirs to do.

People aren't willing to shell out thousands in legal costs to fight with a bunch of losers.

Bullshit. I see some punk jumping on a cop car or smashing store windows, I'm grabbing the fucker. Shame on you if you're too much of a coward to do the same.

Yea, you're all tough and macho talking about it, but let's see you jump into the mix during an actual situation and get your ass kicked by a dozen or so of these losers. Watch out while the Professor hits you with his pencil!

And best of all, if you do happen to get the "fucker" and stab him with your pencil or slap him with your pocket protector, you're the one being cuffed and thrown into the back of a cruiser.

It's got nothing to do with being a coward, policing the streets isn't my job, nor does it make sense to jump into a crowd, act like the tough guy only to get your ass kicked or get arrested when you take things into your own hands.

[2Cdo]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Yea, you're all tough and macho talking about it, but let's see you jump into the mix during an actual situation and get your ass kicked by a dozen or so of these losers.

As someone who has jumped in to deal with punks like these my experience has shown that aggressive acts towards them result in the rest of them running like little cowards.

$1:

It's got nothing to do with being a coward, policing the streets isn't my job

It has everything to do with being a coward. If you're not willing to stand up for what's right then please don't bitch and whine when criminals like this run rampant.

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Yea, you're all tough and macho talking about it, but let's see you jump into the mix during an actual situation and get your ass kicked by a dozen or so of these losers. Watch out while the Professor hits you with his pencil!

I wouldn't get my ass kicked if I wasn't the only one with guts enough to step up.

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

And best of all, if you do happen to get the "fucker" and stab him with your pencil or slap him with your pocket protector, you're the one being cuffed and thrown into the back of a cruiser.

It's got nothing to do with being a coward, policing the streets isn't my job, nor does it make sense to jump into a crowd, act like the tough guy only to get your ass kicked or get arrested when you take things into your own hands.

It's got everything to do with you being a coward. It's not your job? Better to just sit back and look out for Number One instead of doing the right thing, eh? If you saw a little girl being assaulted, you wouldn't step in because it's not your job, huh? Telling.

BTW, today's your birthday, isn't it? Happy Birthday.

[CDN_PATRIOT]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

As someone who has jumped in to deal with punks like these my experience has shown that aggressive acts towards them result in the rest of them running like little cowards.

Concur. Having been in similar situations, I saw the same thing. Even though in my situation they had me outnumbered, they still ran like a bunch of mamas boys when the saw that I was serious about laying down a beating on some of them.

OTI: Armchair quarterbacking accomplishes nothing.

-J.

[EyeBrock]

"...the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence."

Sir Robert Peel.

[OnTheIce]

Lemmy Lemmy:

It's got everything to do with you being a coward. It's not your job? Better to just sit back and look out for Number One instead of doing the right thing, eh? If you saw a little girl being assaulted, you wouldn't step in because it's not your job, huh? Telling.

Ah, you're "Andifying" now.

Comparing a group of thugs to one guy assaulting a child....come on dude, even you know better than to draw that parallel.

[Lemmy]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Ah, you're "Andifying" now.

Comparing a group of thugs to one guy assaulting a child....come on dude, even you know better than to draw that parallel.

BOCK BOCK BOCK

[OnTheIce]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

As someone who has jumped in to deal with punks like these my experience has shown that aggressive acts towards them result in the rest of them running like little cowards.

Most of us have had to deal with a group of punks at one time or another. We're talking apples and watermelons here.

I doubt you (or Lemmy) have every been involved in a massive organized protest where you stood up and took action. Comparing this to confronting a group of punks is laughable.

2Cdo 2Cdo:

It has everything to do with being a coward. If you're not willing to stand up for what's right then please don't bitch and whine when criminals like this run rampant.

Let's wait until it happens in your neck of the woods. I expect to see you on tape fighting crime.

CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:

OTI: Armchair quarterbacking accomplishes nothing.

The ones above are doing the quarter-backing.