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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:16 pm
 


It's just an opinion but it needs to be said, so some of you know that others of us notice. It's written for an American audience but it applies here in Canada too.

Why the Left Doesn't Like Christmas

"Many on the left (as opposed to liberals) have been warring on Christmas for more than a generation. Leftists always deny there is a war on Christmas and mock those who claim there is.

There is a mind-blowing chutzpah or lack of self-awareness when people do something and yet deny that they are actually doing it. But the evidence is overwhelming. The left has stopped schools from calling Christmas vacations by that name -- the name schools called them throughout American history until the last couple of decades. Almost every non-Christian school in America now calls Christmas vacation "winter break." Fewer and fewer Americans, stores, companies or media wish people a "Merry Christmas," preferring the neutered "happy holidays" (despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas). And in but one generation, virtually every American business has gone from having a "Christmas party" to having a "holiday party."

Having written in the past about the falsehood of "Merry Christmas," "Christmas vacation" and "Christmas party" not being "inclusive," I will not reiterate the point here. Suffice it to say that it takes a breathtaking level of narcissism for a non-Christian to be offended by mentions of Christmas and a breathtaking level of meanness to seek to deprive the vast majority of fellow Americans of the public mention of their holiday.

Rather, I want to try to explain why this has happened.

The "inclusive" argument is so absurd -- I am a religious Jew and cannot even fathom being offended or feeling "not included" by an invitation to a Christmas party -- that there have to be other, or at least additional, reasons for the left's neutering of Christmas.

There are.

One is that the left sees in Christianity its primary ideological and political enemy. And it is right to do so. The only large-scale organized opposition to the left comes from the traditional Christian community -- evangelical Protestants, traditional Catholics and faithful Mormons -- and Orthodox Jews. Leftism is a secular religion, and it deems all other religions immoral and false.

From Karl Marx to Vladimir Lenin to George Soros, the left has regarded religion in general and Christianity in particular as the "opiate of the masses" -- a drug that dulls the masses into accepting their oppressed condition and, thereby, keeps them from engaging in revolution.

The left understands that the more people believe in Christianity (and Judaism), the less chance the left has to gain power. The left doesn't concern itself with Islam, because it perceives Islam as an ally in its war against Western civilization, and because leftists do not have the courage to confront Islam. They know that confronting religious Muslims can be fatal, whereas confronting religious Christians entails no risks.

Second, the left regards Christianity in America as an intrinsic part of American national identity -- an identity it wishes to erode in favor of a "world citizen" identity. The left has not only warred against Christmas; it has sought to undermine other national identity holidays. For any number of reasons, not only including the left, Americans no longer celebrate George Washington's birthday (it has de facto been replaced by the utterly meaningless "Presidents Day") or Abraham Lincoln's birthday, as they did when I was a child, my father was a child and his father was a child. The only American celebrated in a national holiday is Martin Luther King Jr., which is acceptable to the left since he is not white. One proof of the left's desire to undermine specifically American national holidays is its war on the two remaining specifically American holidays: July Fourth and Thanksgiving.

The left deems Thanksgiving a historical fraud and an immoral celebration of "genocide" of the American Indians -- which is what American children are now taught in many American public schools. And "happy Thanksgiving" has been replaced by "happy holidays." As for July Fourth, The New York Times is leading the undermining of the celebration of America's birthday by declaring that the real founding of America was 1619, the year, The Times asserts, African slaves first arrived on the American continent.

Of course, there is still Veterans Day and Memorial Day, but they are not specifically American national holidays; just about every country has such holidays.

But Christmas is a problem for the left. It celebrates religion, and it does so in quintessentially American ways (take American Christmas music, for example).

The third and final reason is that the left is joyless. Whatever and whomever the left influences has less joy in life. I have met happy and unhappy liberals, and happy and unhappy conservatives, but I've never encountered a happy leftist. And the further left you go, the more angry and unhappy the people you will encounter. Happy women and happy blacks, for example, are far more likely to be conservative than on the left.

Christmas is just too happy for the left. "Holly, jolly" is not a left-wing term."

~Dennis Prager~

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisp ... s-n2558112


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Thanks, when I saw the name Dave Crosby I had an immediate flashback to David Crosby the drug addled creepy little fek from the Byrds. 8O Great musician, terrible person but thankfully it wasn't him. [B-o]


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:26 pm
 


You're welcome.

Him and his little daughter Claire have been singing together on YouTube, pretty much since she first learned to talk.

It just started as this cute little thing. Now it seems to be catching on. They have another cute one where that Puppeteer girl who won America's Got Talent invites Claire on stage to sing at one of her performances.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 2:35 pm
 


$1:
(The leftards) know that confronting religious Muslims can be fatal, whereas confronting religious Christians entails no risks.


That's not entirely true.

More and more Christians and Catholics are uttering and sometimes shouting the war cry of the Crusaders, "Deus Vult!"

The results of a growing number of elections speak to the disillusionment with the leftist hypocrites who want YOU to give up your comforts while, like Greta Thunberg, they ride in First Class while posing for the cameras as if the live in penury.

No, we've tired of them and we are not just fighting back at the ballot box we're also meeting them on the streets and kicking their asses.

And they are scared.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:00 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
It's just an opinion but it needs to be said, so some of you know that others of us notice. It's written for an American audience but it applies here in Canada too.


Yep, the left sure hates Christmas, look at notorious leftie Rachel Notley bash Christmas:

https://twitter.com/rachelnotley/status ... 10?lang=en

Same goes for Justin TRudeau:

https://globalnews.ca/video/4792460/pri ... as-message

Man, those leftie bastards can even bring themselves to say 'Merry Christmas'

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:14 pm
 


I don't need Christmas to be "Holly, jolly"... I'm "Holly, jolly" all year long.

I can understand though that the perpetually whining Righties need it to feel happy for one day in the year. PDT_Armataz_01_27


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:30 pm
 


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"Many on the left (as opposed to liberals) have been warring on Christmas for more than a generation. Leftists always deny there is a war on Christmas and mock those who claim there is.


Yeah because it’s more right wing idiocy and conspiracy that deserves to be mocked. As is your assertion that you somehow know more about what people on “the left” think than the do about themselves.

But before I get into that, first some education

Christiians said “happy holidays” long before anyone ever thought about multiculturalism , minorities or diversity. It means enjoy Christmas and New Years and your time off of school or work. Bing Crosby’s famous song “Happy Hollidays” was first written in 1942 not by some new Barack Obama liberal as the right-propagandists would have you believe. It is a Christian expression. To wish someone “Happy Holidays” was to wish them happiness for the many Holy Days in a the Christian calendar, such as Advent. Advent is a cycle in the Christian calendar which includes Christmas and concludes on the Feast of the Epiphany. Therefore, then or now, to wish someone “Happy Holidays” is to wish them happiness from the first night of Advent through the Feast of the Epiphany, including Christmas.

So to correct but one small piece of the gaping right-wing ignorance “Happy Holidays “ is not a non-Christian expression imposed on Christians, quite the opposite. It is a Christian expression imposed on non-Christians.

Now back to your supposed claim that you somehow know what’s in the hearts and minds of lefties better than they know themselves. I can tell you first hand it’s just more rubbish for the simple-minded insular conservative to swallow.

For example I’m a “left “ atheist born and raised by “left” atheist parents. We have always celebrated Christmas and have always wished merry Christmas to those who also celebrate Christmas, which is most people. When we know someone doesn’t celebrate Christmas we don’t tell that person merry Christmas. Do you? When we are talking to a mixed group of people, some who do celebrate Christmas and some who don’t, we say something that applies to everyone. You do this too, you just don’t realize it. If one of your friends was going to play football and one was going off to play baseball you would probably tell them both “enjoy your games”. But not because you’re politically correct and dying to be inclusive I bet You wouldn’t tell both to only enjoy baseball because that is the one true sport .

My family celebrates Christmas as a fun and festive holiday, Santa and Rudolf anf Frosty all that. A Christmas tree with presents under it, lights decorations all that. Even though we know there’s no such thing as God and the character of Jesus if it’s based on anything real at all is probably a composite of multiple Jewish reformers and rebels active in that period. Most “leftists” aren’t even atheist in fact some are very religious. Some are even ordained ministers and pastors. We don’t hate Christmas at all let alone want to destroy it.

But don’t let this educational opportunity stop you. Because apparently living in your sheltered reclusive conservative bubble means you somehow know more about my family and our thoughts than we do. Just like you do about Muslims, women, etc than those people do too right? I can’t help but be reminded of all the woman-hating anti-feminist incels on the Right who seem to think they’re preeminent experts on women despite never coming within 5 feet of one or talking to for more than 30 seconds. Because that’s the exact level of knowledge and understanding that oozes from the OP article.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:21 pm
 


I think it's more fun to watch Christians think Christmas is even theirs to begin with. They literally declared it Jesus' birthday with no evidence to support it because pagans were celebrating shit on the same day.

Funny, they still haven't outgrown their pettiness. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:31 pm
 


Why wouldn't lefties celebrate the day Sam Wall was born.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:35 pm
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
It's just an opinion but it needs to be said, so some of you know that others of us notice. It's written for an American audience but it applies here in Canada too.

Why the Left Doesn't Like Christmas

https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisp ... s-n2558112


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:55 pm
 


Dennis Prager is a retarded idiot who doesn't know shit about shit. It's mildly ironic that he runs a shitty YouTube channel called Prager U because someone needs to tell him about the two times Christmas was banned....BY CHRISTIANS

The first was in 1644 by Oliver Cronwell and the Puritans in England and wasn't officially observed again until the Restoration under Charles II.

The second was across the pond in 1659 by, you guessed it, those fun loving Puritans in Massachusetts.


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Dennis Prager is a retarded idiot who doesn't know shit about shit. It's mildly ironic that he runs a shitty YouTube channel called Prager U because someone needs to tell him about the two times Christmas was banned....BY CHRISTIANS

The first was in 1644 by Oliver Cronwell and the Puritans in England and wasn't officially observed again until the Restoration under Charles II.

The second was across the pond in 1659 by, you guessed it, those fun loving Puritans in Massachusetts.

Puritans and Roundheads, Progs one and all.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:50 am
 


Mother reveals she was 'shamed' for saying 'Father Christmas' rather than 'Santa' because it's not GENDER NEUTRAL

Woman, from Plymouth, told she was criticised on social media for her comment
People responded saying 'gender neutral' name 'Santa' is preferred by parents
Added she didn't want to offend and was left feeling 'on edge' after criticism



Yes we need to turn St. Nicholas into some gender queer pedo loving.... woman ! :lol: :lol:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/arti ... utral.html


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:04 am
 


Wow!
You know the world is fucked up when "The Left" is competing with Uncle Scrooge for attention.


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