[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

Shep even started a thread to further discuss the matter

this is the second time that you've made up a fairytale about me. i started a thread to deal with your hypocrisy. you had a hissy fit over some chant directed at rival fans by some drunk bleacher creatures. labelling it as a homophobic attack. then, when it was pointed out that gays use heterophobic insults, you essentially told people it was nothing - see my sig. gerry wouldn't even support your BS and denial and he admitted he bats for your team. enough about you, that's lily's job....back to the topic at hand.

[novachick]

JetBoy JetBoy:

novachick novachick:

Holy get some self esteem or lighten the fuck up

Tell that to Shep who started a thread on how offensive the word "breeder" is.

I'm the one who said it isn't all that bad, remember?

So you all told me otherwise and I conceded... I now consider "breeder" to be offensive and derogatory to heterosexuals and I apologize for saying it was just "rude and inappropriate" and not something worse. Now you think I need self esteem because I consider it derogatory?

You'll stop at nothing to disagree with me, even if it means contradicting yourself.

No you said because i used the word gaydom and eyeliner well then my views on guys are known. Would it surprise you to know i tell my friend to go play in his gaydom. You assume because someome says fag, dyke blah blah, then they must be homophobic. You need to get over it.

[Omega]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

this is the second time that you've made up a fairytale about me. i started a thread to deal with your hypocrisy. you had a hissy fit over some chant directed at rival fans by some drunk bleacher creatures. labelling it as a homophobic attack. then, when it was pointed out that gays use heterophobic insults, you essentially told people it was nothing - see my sig. gerry wouldn't even support your BS and denial and he admitted he bats for your team. enough about you, that's lily's job....back to the topic at hand.

It was anti-gay sentiment and anyone with half a brain should see that. Imagine if they were calling the other team black big-lipped pubic-haired negros because that was the worst thing they could throw at them. Would you all say it wasn't offensive to black people because the actual targets weren't black? No.

More double-standards... surprise, surprise.

And read back on your thread. If that didn't turn out to be a conduit to discuss my sexuality then I don't know what is.

BTW, Gerry doesn't represent a majority of gays' opinions, so what? I got that thread idea from a gay board and the outrage was immense.

[Omega]

novachick novachick:

No you said because i used the word gaydom and eyeliner well then my views on guys are known. Would it surprise you to know i tell my friend to go play in his gaydom. You assume because someome says fag, dyke blah blah, then they must be homophobic. You need to get over it.

I called them "gay jabs."

I didn't say you were making your views on guys known.

And I didn't say anyone who uses the word "fag" was homophobic. Can you read? I started out by saying on that thread that it has all to do with the intention and that my best friend calls me fag and I don't find it offensive because the ill intent isn't there.

For the love of god...

1) Start reading properly,
2) Understand what you read,
and 3) Let the topic of my sexuality go.

[hwacker]

JetBoy JetBoy:

I got that thread idea from a gay board and the outrage was immense.

was there crying and weeping ?

[Omega]

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

[Tricks]

Both the Bible and Quran are fucked up. The difference is in the perception, and how literally it is taken.

[hwacker]

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

The subject is muslims that wear their drapes.

[RUEZ]

JetBoy JetBoy:

So anyway, back to the subject.

How about that Christian hypocrisy?

Not sexism in the Bible but plenty in the Quran? How about plenty in both?

You just don't seem to get it. It's not what's in the book, it's how you treat people in life. This thread started about someone seeing a woman in a veil, who cares if the curan says you should or you shouldn't or if the bible says cut off your leg to spite your dick. It's how you treat people every day. If you think your wife is your property and you teach that in your religion there is something wrong with you.

[Omega]

hwacker hwacker:

The subject is muslims that wear their drapes.

And how it's sexist, and Muslims have a monopoly on sexism in Canada, and should be barred entry into the country for believing their sexist Christian Bible passages, har, har.

Oh wait, that last part was you. The original post is technically only about how it's wrong and makes us feel uncomfortable. I personally find it wrong if the woman is being forced to do so but if it's voluntary as it is in some cases then I'm nobody to tell them otherwise. There's no right or wrong way to dress.

As long as she removes the face-covering for police officers or ID photos etc., and respects other types of people here in Canada, I see no other problem with it.

[hwacker]

JetBoy JetBoy:

hwacker hwacker:

The subject is muslims that wear their drapes.

And how it's sexist, and Muslims have a monopoly on sexism in Canada, and should be barred entry into the country for believing their sexist Christian Bible passages, har, har.

Oh wait, that last part was you. The original post is technically only about how it's wrong and makes us feel uncomfortable. I personally find it wrong if the woman is being forced to do so but if it's voluntary as it is in some cases then I'm nobody to tell them otherwise. There's no right or wrong way to dress.

As long as she removes the face-covering for police officers or ID photos etc., and respects other types of people here in Canada, I see no other problem with it.

you're right.

[Omega]

RUEZ RUEZ:

You just don't seem to get it. It's not what's in the book, it's how you treat people in life. This thread started about someone seeing a woman in a veil, who cares if the curan says you should or you shouldn't or if the bible says cut off your leg to spite your dick. It's how you treat people every day. If you think your wife is your property and you teach that in your religion there is something wrong with you.

It's you having troubles getting it, actually. What's in the book is what's taught as the religion. A vast majority of Christian churches teach directly from the Bible as the word of God and the basis of their beliefs. Maybe some don't, but most do.

Face it, all organized religions are a farce and most are based on ancient out-dated writings consisting of fables speckled with chunks of misconstrued history. It's just that some are "better" than others in terms of conforming to modern-day Western ideals. Some groups tend to take it more literally and bring it to greater extremes than others. If Christians took their Bible literally, which they're supposed to, then they'd think of women as property as well. And many do.

If we have proof of Muslim immigrants abusing their women we should apply Canadian law to protect them and implement the appropriate punishments. However, if there's no proof the woman is an unwilling participant and actually wants to wear the hijab, then it's just another religious cultural quirk we should be tolerant of and any complaining here is pure speculation and unnecessary fear-mongering.

And for those that want to deny them entrance into the country, I wonder how they figure that would be better for the women who are actual abuse victims? Being in a country that will allow them to eventually denounce the oppression and break free, or, keeping them back in their home country where dissent is met this beatings and even death.

[Omega]

hwacker hwacker:

you're right.

Wow, you're displaying more tunnel vision. What a surprise.

[Omega]

Anyway, I'm going to bed now. Too much worrying about how other people dress for me for one day.

Night.

[Brenda]

To go back to the first post: It is scary as hell. I worked at a gasstation years ago, night shifts. At 3 am, it is kinda scary to see a woman (at least, that is what you think it is) with no face and no feet and no hands coming in your shop. Hoping "it" is not gonna shoot you, and want all the money.

Personally, I think those families should lighten up, and addapt to the country. In western society it is not normal to walk in the streets like that, fully covered. They would see it as an insult if I, living in Saoudi Arabia or something, walk down the street with my shoulders shown, or my arms or knees.

Why shouldn't we see wearing a Burqa on our western streets as an insult?