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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:57 am
 


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:17 am
 


Hard to disagree with the radio host. He's right. All sorts of atrocities happen in the name of islam and we're hard pressed to find a recognized muslim leader to condemn these things. At the same time we can quite readily find mobs of muslims who are in the streets CELEBRATING these atrocities. Good thing the radio host isn't in Canada or he'd be in front of the CHRC to have his right to free speech taken away from him.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 11:51 am
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Hard to disagree with the radio host. He's right. All sorts of atrocities happen in the name of islam and we're hard pressed to find a recognized muslim leader to condemn these things. At the same time we can quite readily find mobs of muslims who are in the streets CELEBRATING these atrocities. Good thing the radio host isn't in Canada or he'd be in front of the CHRC to have his right to free speech taken away from him.


That's because there simply isn't one. Many Muslim Clerics do condemn Terrorist Acts, but there's nohing approaching a Pope or central Person who speaks for a very large segment of Muslims.


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sandorski sandorski:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Hard to disagree with the radio host. He's right. All sorts of atrocities happen in the name of islam and we're hard pressed to find a recognized muslim leader to condemn these things. At the same time we can quite readily find mobs of muslims who are in the streets CELEBRATING these atrocities. Good thing the radio host isn't in Canada or he'd be in front of the CHRC to have his right to free speech taken away from him.


That's because there simply isn't one. Many Muslim Clerics do condemn Terrorist Acts, but there's nohing approaching a Pope or central Person who speaks for a very large segment of Muslims.



thats a crock. the only time any muslim 'leader' condemns anything
is when they are sitting in front of the press and being pushed to do it.
else they do nothing, except create more radicalism in the mosques.

why is it we never see muslims protesting these acts in the street ?

cause they condone the actions, thats why.

i havent forgotten the dancing in the streets of Gaza on 9/11,
i doubt many others who saw it would have either.


the DJ nailed it pretty good.


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sandorski sandorski:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Hard to disagree with the radio host. He's right. All sorts of atrocities happen in the name of islam and we're hard pressed to find a recognized muslim leader to condemn these things. At the same time we can quite readily find mobs of muslims who are in the streets CELEBRATING these atrocities. Good thing the radio host isn't in Canada or he'd be in front of the CHRC to have his right to free speech taken away from him.


That's because there simply isn't one. Many Muslim Clerics do condemn Terrorist Acts, but there's nohing approaching a Pope or central Person who speaks for a very large segment of Muslims.


What bullshit, in both your parts. Why do Muslims need a central figure to denounce violence by people they are barely associated with? Once again, you confuse Islam with Islamism. Most Muslims around the world do not agree with the violence caused by terrorists in the name of their religion.


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What bullshit, in both your parts. Why do Muslims need a central figure to denounce violence by people they are barely associated with? Once again, you confuse Islam with Islamism. Most Muslims around the world do not agree with the violence caused by terrorists in the name of their religion.


I never said anything about them needing a central figure, just that you never hear any of the muslims of note condemn terrorism.

The King of Saudi Arabia makes diplomatic statements via his proxies but has never once gone on TV to soundly condemn the violence that members of his own family are known to finance.

None of Iran's religious leaders ever condemn the violence and they are are also known to encourage it.

Just go down the list of muslims of note who actually hold away in a muslim nation and ask why they are all uniformly silent on condemning acts of violence committed by muslims against anyone else?

Where is the fatwa against jihad? :idea:


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Just go down the list of muslims of note who actually hold away in a muslim nation and ask why they are all uniformly silent on condemning acts of violence committed by muslims against anyone else?

Where is the fatwa against jihad? :idea:


I think you should watch Where In The World Is Osama bin Laden.


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romanP romanP:
sandorski sandorski:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Hard to disagree with the radio host. He's right. All sorts of atrocities happen in the name of islam and we're hard pressed to find a recognized muslim leader to condemn these things. At the same time we can quite readily find mobs of muslims who are in the streets CELEBRATING these atrocities. Good thing the radio host isn't in Canada or he'd be in front of the CHRC to have his right to free speech taken away from him.


That's because there simply isn't one. Many Muslim Clerics do condemn Terrorist Acts, but there's nohing approaching a Pope or central Person who speaks for a very large segment of Muslims.


What bullshit, in both your parts. Why do Muslims need a central figure to denounce violence by people they are barely associated with? Once again, you confuse Islam with Islamism. Most Muslims around the world do not agree with the violence caused by terrorists in the name of their religion.


If a large portion of Canadians were conducting terrorist acts around the world, the Canadian Government would list the men involved as terrorists and make a man hunt against them. Trying them in there courts, and putting them in jail for there crimes.

Same would happen if a large ammount of American citizens did it, French Citizens, British Citizens. The people will always express there detest of those organization, even if its there own people.

Whats the difference? When we witness a terrible action caused by one of our own people, we look to fix the situation because its our own people and only we can deal with them.

After all these terrorist actions being brought out in the name of islam, how many islamic people do you know that expressed there detest against it? None that I know of, none in the news (Muslim Country News), not anywhere.

Infact there was a article about Islamic terrorists that went into a Israel School, shot up the place with AK-47's. Next day later, the streets filled with Islamic followers celebrating the school shooting. Not protesting it, but celebrating it.

It is simple, these terrorist religous fanatics are giving there religion a bad name and commiting horrible acts all over the world. Yet they do not protest against these terrorists, they do not do anything to stop it. They don't need some one man speaking for them, but I also don't see a majority speaking for themselves on the subject either.

The same majority that protested against a Cartoon that showed there profet mohammad, the same protest against a British school-teacher that allowed one of her kids to name a teddy-bear muhammad.

Obviously they can mass protest a school teacher for naming a teddy bear, but they can't protest the horrible actions of terrorists?





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Dayan D'Souza, well known community leader and orator spoke first. He said, 'People of Tulunadu are peace loving, be it a Muslim, Hindu or Christian. Tulunadu cuisines are world famous . Tulunadu culture is so beautiful, but this unrest has happened in Tulu Nadu?. Christians in Tulunadu, though a minority , gained lot of respect from all communities . There was hardly any violence from Christian communities back home. Even Hindus are peace loving and friendly people. A true Hindu will not do such barbaric acts” he said.

'For the first time helpless women and nuns where beaten up by the police. Catholics were never accused of conversions. Why should this has happen all of sudden? What power is behind this? Let us not blame all Hindus, let us not put a question mark after the name of each Hindu. Instead , let the government find out the truth . Let us keep up the pressure on the government. We all here today to condemn the incidents that have happened back home' he said

Irshad Moodubidri, a well known Kannada author and journalist spoke from his heart. 'No religion teaches violence. But bad sects of every religion always create problems.” He said . “ Look at Islam where a majority of Muslims follow true Islam and live by the teachings of the Holy Quran. But a handful of them cross the border, forget their true religion and go against it by disturbing the national security with all kinds of violence."

'It is very sad that people who incite violence in the name of religion never bother about the development of the region or nation. Look at some of the pathetic conditions of the roads in Mangalore. These same fanatics can use their resources and time on repairing the roads or develop the city, instead of damaging public and religious places. The acts of attacking churches must be condemned in one voice' he said

B G Mohandas, former professor , thinker, writer and editor of gulfkannadiga.com a popular Kannada language website spoke on various issues related to the Mangalore communal violence. 'I cannot bear to see my home town so badly disturbed. We are Indians first and then Hindus, Muslims or Christians. We all hail from the coastal region and are united at this moment. Indians abroad are well educated and have respect for each other. They rise above religion when they meet fellow Indians here. I myself have studied in Catholic institutions and so also my children. I have great regard for catholic institutions. I do not understand why these 'unemployed' people should target Churches, priests and nuns . What has happened in the coastal district and other parts of Karnataka is sad, and it pains me a lot” . he said.

He went on to say that “ violence was politically motivated, and there is no gain for ordinary people.'

He urged all those fanatics who trouble others in the name of religion to go to the villages and serve the poor and maintain their religious faith and not by stoning and destroying sacred prayer centres and churches.





PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:05 pm
 


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'Act of terrorism'

Pakistan's neighbour, India. expressed "shock and sorrow" over the attack, saying the bombing demonstrated the "destructive forces" of terrorism.

"We strongly condemn this act of terrorism," Manmohan Singh, the indian prime minister, said

"Such attacks are a grim reminder of the challenges we face from destructive forces which have pitted themselves against the values of democracy and pluralism and the voices of moderation. We must not allow such forces to succeed."





PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:07 pm
 


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Addressing the press conference at the Press Club of India, Mujtaba Farooque, political affairs secretary of Jamaat-e-Islami Hind said while Muslims have always been condemning terrorism in the country, after every such case the entire community is being targeted. He said the community supports stringent punishment to those behind the inhuman acts of serial bombings but an entire community must not be victimized for individuals’ acts.
Maulana Abdul Hameed Nomani, acting general secretary of Jamiat Ulama-I-Hind, said every known Muslim organization is away from terrorism and can never support it. He condemned both victimization of Muslims in the name of war on terror and terrorism in the name of Islam.





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Leaders across the Islamic world condemned the 9/11 attacks, and the overwhelming sentiment of Muslims was sympathy for the victims. In Iran, for example, tens of thousands of people joined candlelight vigils in the days following the 9/11 attacks....

News-leader.com


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