[CommanderSock]

Some of you may have recently heard of a British man Daniel James, who traveled to Switzerland to commit suicide following a crippling rugby injury.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/engl ... 677706.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/10 ... index.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4643196.stm



This is front page news in the UK this week.

Do you believe if a person wishes to commit suicide, for special circumstances such as permanent disability or serious injury, they should have the right? Legally speaking?

Also, do you believe the Swiss clinic is wrong to offer such a service?

[roger-roger]

As long as it is done safely and there is no way to convince the person, who is of sound mind, I dont see a problem with it.

[OPP]

Anyone pro suicide is a murderer in my mind.

[roger-roger]

Im guessing you feel the same about abortion...

[Zipperfish]

Well, personally, I've still kicking at 90, and get some terminal condition, I think I should be able to ride out of town on a Brompton cocktail (morphine and heroin mixed with gin). I tink this idea of keeping people alive, whether they like it or not, even if means breaking half their ribs when they lay the paddles on them, is a little perverse. As a society, we don't deal with death very well.

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

Im guessing you feel the same about abortion...

Not at all. No brain, no pain.

[roger-roger]

So if someone is near death, and due to the constant pain of cancer they want to end their life, you dont feel they have to right to end their life?

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

So if someone is near death, and due to the constant pain of cancer they want to end their life, you dont feel they have to right to end their life?

Euthenasia and an incurable disease, in this case cancer, where you'll die is not euthenasia. If it is, then I'm obviously mistaken.
The euthinasia I am familiar with debating is perfectly healthy people, or people suffering from non lethal conditions, yet wish to be put to death.

[roger-roger]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Euthanasia

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Euthanasia

I stand corrected.
This has never been a subject of debate in Sweden as far as I know.
Still, the initial post or thread was about a non lethal condition and the following act of "mercy killing", was it not?

[roger-roger]

The question is do you support it?

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

The question is do you support it?

A said I do not. Not in the case of a person who is not suffering from a deadly condition or a condition where anything else but death is so painfull that there is no other alternative but death.

[roger-roger]

What if its due to grief, if say a father or mother killed their child and is grief stricken to the point that they want to commit suicide? This is of course after years of therapy and they just cannot cope with life anymore. The pain of knowing they caused the death of their own has left them dead inside.

[OPP]

Eisensapper Eisensapper:

What if its due to grief, if say a father or mother killed their child and is grief stricken to the point that they want to commit suicide? This is of course after years of therapy and they just cannot cope with life anymore. The pain of knowing they caused the death of their own has left them dead inside.

You should NEVER help anyone take their own life. End of argument.

[roger-roger]

You just said it would be ok if they were in unbareable pain.