[Tricks]

Abbas Abbas:

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The screw loose change not freakin again video go's through every single CT one point at a time and doe's it without bias. Something those other video's dont do.

k I am at work right now and I will check it out once I get home. But the problem is, if you are telling me not to believe 100 videos that say BUSH did it then how can I believe another 100 videos that say the opposite? There has to be a middle ground, where we can discuss one topic at a time. First, I suggest that we debate out, whether the building actually collapsed because of the planes or were there actual explosives inside the building.

Well that's easy to disprove. Go watch a sky scraper being demolished, then go watch the buildings fall. Tell me if there is anything similar. Toodles.

[hwacker]

Abbas Abbas:

Tricks Tricks:

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Not sleeping for a week? That's apparent.

Its more of a expression my friend and I am sure, he wasn't the only one working on the video.

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Steel doesn't meant. Falsely assuming it.

Falsely assuming it? How so? The person has professionals explaining to you the melting temperature of steel and what temp is needed for it to melt. The entire video is about the structure, how can you say that he falsely assumed it? lol did you even watch the whole thing?

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Interesting how they have a Civil engineer from America's Society of Civil Engineers agreeing with us.

Yea, because he is trying to show both sides of the argument, thats why I picked that video because he shows you what the government claims and why their claims don't make sense, in the real world.

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They say there are fired but using the Firemen's own words, then go on to say that it isn't burning because there is smoke. And yes, if it burning successfully, there can be smoke. It depends on what is burning.

Regardless of it burning or not, the temperature cannot get to a point where it starts melting steel, especially the first from the JET itself. I was flipping through News channels when it happened and I was surprised then that for the FIRST TIME ever, a building of that size fell because of fire.

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This next dickwad (whoever he is, they don't tell us) says that the building could withstand a 707 crashing into it. Notice how he chooses his words. The builder's said at low speeds. This was at highest speed.

That "dickwad" is the guy who built the building. Then another "dickwad" cofirms his statements.

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Now they compare wind to 300000 pounds of steel slamming into a building as fast as it possible can.

Actually, Wind can be much more deadly then any plane hitting anything. Twin towers were specially designed to stand winds that share the entire building and they make it wave throughout a windy day, but ONE PLANE smashed in to couple of floors, brought down a GIANT building?

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Come in with a structural engineer again, speaking AGAINST the foilers. Then they try to go on and blame the Engineers for not building the building right.

Huh? Who said anything about not building the building right? The building was built right, thats why it went through so much tourcher and it was good as new. Thats the problem, why did it go down when a plane hit it, and it wasn't just one tower that went down, they both went down in a small interval one after another, how do you explain 2 fires, burning at the same rate, bringing down both buildings within few seconds of each other. Sounds like a demolition doesn't it?

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"Never before has a steel building collapsed by fire" Well no shit, but 99.9 percent of them haven't had a airliner run into the building at the same time, a point foilers conveniently leave out.

Actually the plane did nothing to the building except make a big hole in couple of the floors and the internal beams of the building couldn't have come down, that easily. A plane would be like someone throughing a rock at you real fast. Now that may hurt you, it may even put a hole in you but it will not allow the entire bone structure to collpase.

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And that's only about the first 10 minutes, and they have yet to say anything that is right. I will continue this after school if the need be.

You need to learn to believe other people, I can act like I am deaf and blind as well and just pretend that it was only Bush who did it but I tend to keep researching the situation before I have a conclusion of my own.

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The person has professionals explaining to you the melting temperature of steel and what temp is needed for it to melt.

myass's high school diploma is showing now, Why continue to argue with someone with zero skills in logical thought.

[Tricks]

Abbas Abbas:

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Abbas Abbas:

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I have a hard time believing anyone would knowingly allow that to happen to their own people.

Yep but that doesn't mean one would not do it, if the "future" of America depended on these wars that took place in the past 5 years.

They didn't.

Well prove your side my friend. It seems that most people actually just saw whole bunch of videos made from both sides and then just picked a side and stick with it. Does anyone have any paper research like, who was installing the Security Cameras inside the twin towers before the attacks. Or, why is it that so many people heard a sound similar to a "fire cracker" before the building collapsed?

Hmm you are taking the word of people are probably shitting themselves they are so scared, and not to mention the many reasons for those noises.

[Yank-in-NY]

Tricks, you're a glutton for punishment starting this thread.

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Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

Tricks, you're a glutton for punishment starting this thread.

It had to be done,the CT's were starting to bring up 9/11 on totally unrelated topics so this is a way for them to get it all out once and for all.

[Tricks]

Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

Tricks, you're a glutton for punishment starting this thread.

I know, but at least if this is the main thread it won't spoil other threads. I find it interesting that 6 have said Bush did it. Yet we only have heard for 1 or 2....

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Some links for you Tricks.

http://www.911myths.com/index.html

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_links.html

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/

[Abbas]

RUEZ RUEZ:

Abbas Abbas:

Or, why is it that so many people heard a sound similar to a "fire cracker" before the building collapsed?

That's easy, that's the sounding of metal snapping and crumpling. When twenty floors come crashing down into the rest of the building it's going to make some noise.

Before the building collapsed, not while it was collapsing plus what about the huge explosions? But once again, let me watch this 3 hour video when I get home because it seems most guys here are determined that this video shows the real side of it so, we will see tonight.

[Yank-in-NY]

Tricks Tricks:

Yank-in-NY Yank-in-NY:

Tricks, you're a glutton for punishment starting this thread.

I know, but at least if this is the main thread it won't spoil other threads. I find it interesting that 6 have said Bush did it. Yet we only have heard for 1 or 2....

I find it more interesting they refute scientific data (not to mention comnon sense) by international accredited organizations and believe a nutbar with a video camera and "horror flick" soundtracks.

[Abbas]

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Hmm you are taking the word of people are probably shitting themselves they are so scared, and not to mention the many reasons for those noises.

Yea but the specific noise that was described by many fire fighters and civis was that they heard "boom boom boom ... " before the building collapsed.

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Abbas Abbas:

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Abbas Abbas:

Or, why is it that so many people heard a sound similar to a "fire cracker" before the building collapsed?

That's easy, that's the sounding of metal snapping and crumpling. When twenty floors come crashing down into the rest of the building it's going to make some noise.

Before the building collapsed, not while it was collapsing plus what about the huge explosions? But once again, let me watch this 3 hour video when I get home because it seems most guys here are determined that this video shows the real side of it so, we will see tonight.

Good,you'll see the building go down many times as well as others they use for comparison. It wasnt a controlled demolition.

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Abbas Abbas:

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Hmm you are taking the word of people are probably shitting themselves they are so scared, and not to mention the many reasons for those noises.

Yea but the specific noise that was described by many fire fighters and civis was that they heard "boom boom boom ... " before the building collapsed.

Thats the sound of floors falling as the building pancaked.

Think Im going to do another fake video,i'll have you telling a firefighter over the phone to pull the building like I did with my last one.Except I used a different CT's name.

[RUEZ]

Abbas Abbas:

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Hmm you are taking the word of people are probably shitting themselves they are so scared, and not to mention the many reasons for those noises.

Yea but the specific noise that was described by many fire fighters and civis was that they heard "boom boom boom ... " before the building collapsed.

Ya when you fly a jumbo jet into a building things break and snap, and noises follow. You aren't going to believe anything anyone says anyway though so its a moot point. You hate GW, you hate America.

[Abbas]

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Well that's easy to disprove. Go watch a sky scraper being demolished, then go watch the buildings fall. Tell me if there is anything similar. Toodles.

Yea, I did and I saw alot of similarties between the two collapses, so either "Al-Queda" planted bombs or it was bushes brother, either way, there was explosives in that building and they brought it down, there is no way, metal can melt in 90 minutes, bringing an entire building down.

Once more thing, how come the building collapsed on itself? I mean, shouldn't the top of the building move around alittle and lean in one of the directions? But, it didn't. They claim that it was a domino effect, yet we did not see anything in the aftermath that would prove that it was a domino effect. Plus, how do you explain the building free falling, like the buildings top was dropped in an open sky? The top should have slowed down, not fall at a constant speed. Anybody with half a brain can tell you that. Because the entire fall of the building goes against Physics.

[RUEZ]

ziggy ziggy:

Abbas Abbas:

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Hmm you are taking the word of people are probably shitting themselves they are so scared, and not to mention the many reasons for those noises.

Yea but the specific noise that was described by many fire fighters and civis was that they heard "boom boom boom ... " before the building collapsed.

Thats the sound of floors falling as the building pancaked.

Exactly, what I determined from watching the video is that the smoke obscured the top floors as they began to fall. You hear noise and then when the falling floors come into view at the smoke line you see the building coming down.