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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:51 am
Via Westeren Grit$1: We're hearing confirmed reports of high level discussions with Conservative MPs regarding joining the Dion/Layton/Duceppe "Grand Coalition. Sources indicate that the MPs are "progressives", and are extremely upset with Harper.
The Conservative "floor crossers" will NOT sit in the Liberal Caucus. They will be part of the "Grand Coalition" as "Independent Conservatives".
As of posting, it has not been confirmed by our highly placed sources just when this "walk" will take place, but it is either to be Monday, or with further Harper shenanigans, after the fall of the government. Sources say these MPs could be part of the coalition cabinet. This certainly explains why cabinet members have not been named yet.
More local news hints that MP Nina Grewal is having "serious discussions" with senior BC Liberals. It appears however that the Liberals involved are not too keen on having anything to do with the Grewals (now, or in the future). Sources close to Calgary MP Lee Richardson say, "he's outta here" (referring to Harper). They also indicate that Jim Prentice is prepared to step in.
The battle between the neo-Conserva-fascist Reform Party "Guard" group and progressives on the Conservative side is starting to come to a head. Former PCs are ready to walk according to sources.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:59 am
Excellent news. Something few people on here even thought of. Add a bunch of conservative MPs willing to put aside partisan differences to make govt work. Give them some cabinent positions and a voice in how things are run. Make the coalition pandemic across the parties. 
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:22 am
$1: The battle between the neo-Conserva-fascist Reform Party "Guard" group and progressives on the Conservative side is starting to come to a head. Former PCs are ready to walk according to sources.
Yeah....horse shit like this makes it sound like a real credible source. Sounds like it was written by Mr. C. 
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:53 am
Day denies report of 2000 coalition plot with BlocOur Benign Dictatorship by Stephen Harper and Tom Flanagan$1: If Quebec stays in Confederation, the Bloc will either disintegrate or become an autonomist party, participating in federal politics as a representative of Quebec’s specific interests. Philosophically, it is logical for liberals to offer Quebec money and privileged treatment, while conservatives find it easier to offer autonomy and enhanced jurisdiction. On that basis, a strategic alliance of Quebec nationalists with conservatives outside Quebec might become possible, and it might be enough to sustain a government. The man behind Steven Harper: Tom Flanagan
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:57 am
I wouldn't put a lot of faith in this "report". There are also "reports" saying the opposite. There's a lot of spin and propoganda being spewed by both sides right now.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:24 am
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:47 am
well, I'll excuse you your youth and ignorance for listing Israel as an example of how coalitions work, or any other coalition government. Did you ever wonder how the religious factions hold so much power in a largely secular society? it is because the religious splinter groups are needed to support the ruling party. They hold them by the short hairs to get their extremist policies passed.
Other governments that have coalitions differ from what Jackoff and Stuffy are propossing, in that the party that holds the most seats, holds the major positions in the ruling coalition. It isn't excluded as the Liberals and NDP plan on doing. In this way, what is being proposed has no precedence in our history.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:02 am
Except by Harper in 1996, 2000, 2004 oh and as a part of Confederation by the Tories which btw founded this nation but otherwise, no president at all...  $1: The new, post-1867 Liberal Party was organised by Annand and his anti-Confederate forces, while the Conservative Party was organised by Tupper and supporters of Sir John A. Macdonald's coalition in the province.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:22 am
Scape Scape: Except by Harper in 1996, 2000, 2004 oh and as a part of Confederation by the Tories which btw founded this nation but otherwise, no president at all...  $1: The new, post-1867 Liberal Party was organised by Annand and his anti-Confederate forces, while the Conservative Party was organised by Tupper and supporters of Sir John A. Macdonald's coalition in the province. nope, no president, we have a prime minister.
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:26 am
Like Joe Clark$1: Social Credit was below the 12 seats needed for official party status in the House of Commons. However, the six seats would have been just enough to give Clark's government a majority had the Progressive Conservatives formed a coalition government with Social Credit, or had the two parties otherwise agreed to work together. Clark managed to lure Socred MP Richard Janelle to the government caucus but this still left the PCs short. Clark however declared that he would govern as if he had a majority,[11] and refused to grant the small Social Credit caucus official party status or form a coalition or co-operate with the party in any way.
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