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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:28 pm
 


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Yes lets elect the NDP for Electoral reform, the watch our economy sink faster then a submarine with screen doors. Not to mention our military volunteer numbers drop, and the equipment get so old we have to blow dust off them when the NDP grows a spine.


I'll admit that the NDP would kill our economy and military if elected just as soon as you admit that Harper has a hidden agenda to criminalize homosexuality and abortions if granted a majority.
Abortions maybe, but not homosexuality. This hidden agenda shit is a scare tactic that has been used by the left, and now that Harper is in office and isn't seen as some scary guy, then they can't stand on that any longer.


This "NDP will destroy the economy" shit is a scare tactic.
No, a scare tactic is when it isn't true. The NDP nearly drove the Ontario economy into nothing. The NDP actually will destroy the economy.


The RECESSION nearly drove the Ontario economy into nothing. Good lord, you think that was all the NDP? Think it only hit Ontario? No. The only thing the NDP had to do with that was the misfortune to have been elected at the wrong time, and we've been paying for it at the polls ever since.


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Nope. The NDP hit BC and nearly killed us too.


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Alright; my thought out opinion.

Firstly, everyone who says Alberta this, BC that, fuck Quebec are being to narrow minded. these places are simply bordered regions with names within the greater country of Canada. Everything should be to support the country as a whole. After all, without the creation of the country, none of the western provinces would really exist today, BC wouldn't be fucking rich, Alberta wouldn't be fucking rich, Saskatchewan and Manitoba wouldn't be on their ways to becoming fucking rich, etc.

For the folks that are narrowminded - you are in infinite dept to the country, and you should be willing to pay it. By country I don't mean Quebec or Ontario, I mean the country as a whole, including your own bloody region. Remember, the country as a whole once supported your region to help you grow, you should be willing to do the same for the country, so that the country can grow and in turn support otherregions grow, which soemday will come back to benifit you.

As an example; Alberta gives money to the Maritimes and Quebec. Right now you might be saying "oh we are getting cashraped by these french as lobster-loving fucks" Well guess what, when the oil runs out, Alberta will become a region of cattle ranches once again, and will be relying on money from Quebec business and industry, maritime money (they'll be using their oil by then hopefully), and from all the cash we receive from our resource goldmines to the north.

If Alberta wants to invest in its future, it should be willing to give cash to the country, so that the country can give that cash to regions who have the potential to support the country in the future. Cause Alberta is getting fuck all for cash from the resources in the north if they arn't willing to help pay to develop it now. same for power from the Maritimes and cash from Quebec.

For those that wanna shoot holes in my argument regarding the maritimes and Quebec being the cash cows someday, remember that times change. Alberta wasn't a cash hog once. They'll stumble upon something to make them money, just as Alberta did when she discovered oil.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:49 pm
 


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And here is where things get a little funny. You see, I was in the military and know damn well the military doesn't have the resources to take care of a 100 sq kms much less an area the size of Alberta. I think you need to be more realistic about what Canada can do and what it can't do to an entire population the size of Alberta. Also consider that Western Canadians and Maritime regions make up a large population of the combat troops. Explain to them how they are to crush their home province. I compare that to telling Iraqi troops to open fire on their home village...Highly unlikely to happen Zipperfish. A departing province would simply depart and Ottawa would have to deal with it. That includes Quebec.

Besides...How are they going to get those troops moved around...On those pretend helicopters and troops transports the Liberals purchased? :lol:


It wasn't pretty in the US, either. They faced the same obstacles. Brother against brother and all that. It's my personal opinion that the US ended up stronger as a result of fighting the secession of the South.

I wonder if there was any discussion in the US Supremem Court about secession in the US in 1860, or if the North and the South just went at it.

Before the Civil war, states had the right to secede or to nullify Federal law that overstepped it's constitutional jurisdiction. After jailing legislatures and killing thousands, replacing leaders with pro unionists against democracy, the US went into a long slumber. I think a popular motto in the South is "Lee surrendered, I didn't"





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I should just fucking ban all you seperatist fucks, you make me sick.

Oh cry cry, we loose our conservative government, so lets work to break up the best country on earth.

I truely beleive even in Quebec and Alberta the people that want to seperate are small numbers, that are just vocal. Some people might consider it on a poll here or there, but when it really came down to it they would be for Canada.

Many US states have seperation parties or groups like above as well.


Man, the bolded part is the best line I've ever seen come from a webmaster... :lol:

Otherwise I wholeheartedly agree.


Every province has seperatist movements,you cant just bury your head in the sand and hope they go away because they wont. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:57 pm
 


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I should just fucking ban all you seperatist fucks, you make me sick.

Oh cry cry, we loose our conservative government, so lets work to break up the best country on earth.

I truely beleive even in Quebec and Alberta the people that want to seperate are small numbers, that are just vocal. Some people might consider it on a poll here or there, but when it really came down to it they would be for Canada.

Many US states have seperation parties or groups like above as well.


Man, the bolded part is the best line I've ever seen come from a webmaster... :lol:

Otherwise I wholeheartedly agree.


Every province has seperatist movements,you cant just bury your head in the sand and hope they go away because they wont. :wink:


Oh no, I'd much rather go out and shoot the bastards. Not like that'll ever be legal though... To bad eh? Was hopign for some frogs for dinner.

It always amazes me how the smallest groups have the largest voices.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:00 pm
 


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Nope. The NDP hit BC and nearly killed us too.


If by "killed" you mean "allowed per capita GDP to increase every year since 1991, when the NDP took power," I agree.

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hurley_108 hurley_108:
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Yes lets elect the NDP for Electoral reform, the watch our economy sink faster then a submarine with screen doors. Not to mention our military volunteer numbers drop, and the equipment get so old we have to blow dust off them when the NDP grows a spine.


I'll admit that the NDP would kill our economy and military if elected just as soon as you admit that Harper has a hidden agenda to criminalize homosexuality and abortions if granted a majority.
Abortions maybe, but not homosexuality. This hidden agenda shit is a scare tactic that has been used by the left, and now that Harper is in office and isn't seen as some scary guy, then they can't stand on that any longer.


This "NDP will destroy the economy" shit is a scare tactic.



Riiiiiight,I saw what they did to the Elk valley(BC) when they backed Ezner Deanna with the UMWA 20 years ago to implement a wobble(wildcat strike) and literally threw thousands out of jobs and bankrupted western Canada's 3 biggest coal mines in only 3 months. :roll: Anyone remember BRIC shares? :o

After that thousands of union members passed a motion to not let the local contribute to any political parties anymore useing members dues because it allways went to the kne dippers.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:02 pm
 


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Oh no, I'd much rather go out and shoot the bastards. Not like that'll ever be legal though... To bad eh? Was hopign for some frogs for dinner.



It's one thing to say Quebec is stealing our money, but when you start using racial slurs you have crossed the line into the realm of the ignorant and useless.


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$1:

Firstly, everyone who says Alberta this, BC that, fuck Quebec are being to narrow minded. these places are simply bordered regions with names within the greater country of Canada. Everything should be to support the country as a whole. After all, without the creation of the country, none of the western provinces would really exist today, BC wouldn't be fucking rich, Alberta wouldn't be fucking rich, Saskatchewan and Manitoba wouldn't be on their ways to becoming fucking rich, etc.

For the folks that are narrowminded - you are in infinite dept to the country, and you should be willing to pay it. By country I don't mean Quebec or Ontario, I mean the country as a whole, including your own bloody region. Remember, the country as a whole once supported your region to help you grow, you should be willing to do the same for the country, so that the country can grow and in turn support otherregions grow, which soemday will come back to benifit you.

As an example; Alberta gives money to the Maritimes and Quebec. Right now you might be saying "oh we are getting cashraped by these french as lobster-loving fucks" Well guess what, when the oil runs out, Alberta will become a region of cattle ranches once again, and will be relying on money from Quebec business and industry, maritime money (they'll be using their oil by then hopefully), and from all the cash we receive from our resource goldmines to the north.

If Alberta wants to invest in its future, it should be willing to give cash to the country, so that the country can give that cash to regions who have the potential to support the country in the future. Cause Alberta is getting fuck all for cash from the resources in the north if they arn't willing to help pay to develop it now. same for power from the Maritimes and cash from Quebec.

For those that wanna shoot holes in my argument regarding the maritimes and Quebec being the cash cows someday, remember that times change. Alberta wasn't a cash hog once. They'll stumble upon something to make them money, just as Alberta did when she discovered oil.

Do you support the crown?


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Firstly, everyone who says Alberta this, BC that, fuck Quebec are being to narrow minded. these places are simply bordered regions with names within the greater country of Canada. Everything should be to support the country as a whole. After all, without the creation of the country, none of the western provinces would really exist today, BC wouldn't be fucking rich, Alberta wouldn't be fucking rich, Saskatchewan and Manitoba wouldn't be on their ways to becoming fucking rich, etc.

For the folks that are narrowminded - you are in infinite dept to the country, and you should be willing to pay it. By country I don't mean Quebec or Ontario, I mean the country as a whole, including your own bloody region. Remember, the country as a whole once supported your region to help you grow, you should be willing to do the same for the country, so that the country can grow and in turn support otherregions grow, which soemday will come back to benifit you.

As an example; Alberta gives money to the Maritimes and Quebec. Right now you might be saying "oh we are getting cashraped by these french as lobster-loving fucks" Well guess what, when the oil runs out, Alberta will become a region of cattle ranches once again, and will be relying on money from Quebec business and industry, maritime money (they'll be using their oil by then hopefully), and from all the cash we receive from our resource goldmines to the north.

If Alberta wants to invest in its future, it should be willing to give cash to the country, so that the country can give that cash to regions who have the potential to support the country in the future. Cause Alberta is getting fuck all for cash from the resources in the north if they arn't willing to help pay to develop it now. same for power from the Maritimes and cash from Quebec.

For those that wanna shoot holes in my argument regarding the maritimes and Quebec being the cash cows someday, remember that times change. Alberta wasn't a cash hog once. They'll stumble upon something to make them money, just as Alberta did when she discovered oil.

Do you support the crown?


I actually don't know, never really took time to form an opinion. Nowadays I think they are fucking useless... but its one of the few things we as a nation still share, rather than being concerned about our regional gigs.

As for the racial slurs, I love people from Quebec, I just have a distaste for the separatist folk out there, so i call them frogs. I don't apply it to everyone out there.

I'm sorry if I offended you, unless your a separatist.


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I actually don't know, never really took time to form an opinion. Nowadays I think they are fucking useless... but its one of the few things we as a nation still share, rather than being concerned about our regional gigs.

Well would you support paying taxes to the United Kingdom?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:16 pm
 


Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:
For the folks that are narrowminded - you are in infinite dept to the country, and you should be willing to pay it. By country I don't mean Quebec or Ontario, I mean the country as a whole, including your own bloody region. Remember, the country as a whole once supported your region to help you grow, you should be willing to do the same for the country, so that the country can grow and in turn support otherregions grow, which soemday will come back to benifit you.

HEAR HEAR, I agree with the entire post


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:19 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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I actually don't know, never really took time to form an opinion. Nowadays I think they are fucking useless... but its one of the few things we as a nation still share, rather than being concerned about our regional gigs.

Well would you support paying taxes to the United Kingdom?


Depends, what would we get back? Military protection? Unless there was a benefit to us, then no, I wouldn't.

Edit - ah, I see where your going with this. The united Kingdom allowed us to come to be, so under my logic we would be forever indept to them.

However, that dept was written off once they granted us independance as a nation.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:26 pm
 


How many people support a One World government? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to just have one governing body?


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