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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:10 pm
 


hurley_108 hurley_108:
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Yes lets elect the NDP for Electoral reform, the watch our economy sink faster then a submarine with screen doors. Not to mention our military volunteer numbers drop, and the equipment get so old we have to blow dust off them when the NDP grows a spine.


I'll admit that the NDP would kill our economy and military if elected just as soon as you admit that Harper has a hidden agenda to criminalize homosexuality and abortions if granted a majority.
Abortions maybe, but not homosexuality. This hidden agenda shit is a scare tactic that has been used by the left, and now that Harper is in office and isn't seen as some scary guy, then they can't stand on that any longer.


This "NDP will destroy the economy" shit is a scare tactic.
They did wonders for BC. :roll:


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Well, it sounds fine, but here is the part where the Quebec PR machine is startin up again to steal more money from the "stupid anglos", but this time with the help of leader of France.....

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January 22, 2007

Royal says she favours Quebec sovereignty

PARIS (CP) - French presidential candidate Segolene Royal says she sympathizes with the idea of Quebec sovereignty.

The Socialist hopeful was asked about her thoughts on Quebec's national question after a short meeting with Parti Quebecois Leader Andre Boisclair in Paris today. Royal, whose main rival on the French right is Nicolas Sarkozy, said Quebec and France have common values.

However Quebec Premier Jean Charest says only Quebecers will decide their future, while Boisclair says Royal's comments show she's sympathetic to sovereignty and understands his message.

Charest will attend an environmental conference in France at the beginning of February.


They should of thought of that before they signed the treaty of paris in 1763 and decided to focus on the islands of Guadaloupe in instead.


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hurley_108 hurley_108:
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Yes lets elect the NDP for Electoral reform, the watch our economy sink faster then a submarine with screen doors. Not to mention our military volunteer numbers drop, and the equipment get so old we have to blow dust off them when the NDP grows a spine.


I'll admit that the NDP would kill our economy and military if elected just as soon as you admit that Harper has a hidden agenda to criminalize homosexuality and abortions if granted a majority.
Abortions maybe, but not homosexuality. This hidden agenda shit is a scare tactic that has been used by the left, and now that Harper is in office and isn't seen as some scary guy, then they can't stand on that any longer.


This "NDP will destroy the economy" shit is a scare tactic.
They did wonders for BC. :roll:


This is why I think Bob Rae didn't win the liberal leadership because folks in Ontario would remember the NDP Rae Days, cant forget that .

Well that and the Liberal party unspoken rule, the leader must be from Quebec. Period.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:17 pm
 


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Your all for Canadian unity huh? but in the same breath you call french people frogs, .... your an idiot.


Did you even bother to read my posts after that? I call french separatists frogs. If they want to be distinct, might aswell associate the distinct people with something I hate as much as them. :wink:

French Canadiens on the other hand, I love them. And I'd be as pissed of at anyone who calls them frogs as much as you and others are at me for calling the separatists frogs.


So now according to you the racial slur "frogs" means French separatist only and not loyal french Canadians ?

Nice try Tex,

That folks is what we call backpedaling.


Is it? in the post where I originally made the comment I talked about shooting separatists, and being disappointed that it was illegal. in the same breath I expressed dissapointment that I couldn't have frogs for dinner. I thought it was obvious that I was attaching frogs to the separatists, but I guess not.

I apologies if I offended you in anyway. If you have something more credible to debate against me that backpedaling, go for it. :)




I hope you don't mind if I break up your points here.

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But all children leave home don't they? Right now we are more in the same house with our parents. I don't think leaving home would be abandoning them but it is just the inevitable that when your children get older and feel more responsible they want to take on new responsibilities and assert their independence. So by becoming responsible of our own province how is that really wrong? I don’t think it is totally going against Canada it is just taking control of our lives.


by all means children should eventually leave home, thats not what I meant. By abandoning the parents I meant that 50-60 years down the road, when they are sick and dying, your not going to abandon them are you? I had to change my grandfathers diapers in his dying days because my mother basically abandoned him. Thats the association I made. if the west were to separate from Canada, it would be as though we are forever abandoning our parents when they did so much to raise us to what we are today.


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Look at Australia and New Zealand two countries, which share a great deal with one another politically, culturally, and in every fashion yet are two countries with two parliaments. Why can’t we have an arrangement like that with Canada? Australians and New Zealanders are also allowed to study, work, and visit each other’s countries as if they are the same citizens as well. Just because we become our own country would not mean all the positive elements of our relationship would have to end. We could have the best of both worlds if we wanted too.


In all honesty, I love that system. its pretty much what we have right now, except the countries are provinces and we are somehow unified under one roof. As much as I love this, I'd rather we all be one country, than many inter-connected countries.


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Don't worry, when you all leave no one will ask anyone to take any debt. Ontario while take over the entire debt of Canada.

Just don't suprised if you wake up one day and find out we've decided to use your backyard as a toilet for our nuclear waste.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:26 pm
 


They're just idiots. Like they'd survive as a land-locked country.

First they have to repay Canada for the building of the railway, then pay through the nose to use it in future. Also they have to BUY the oil rights which belong to the Crown.


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They're just idiots. Like they'd survive as a land-locked country.

First they have to repay Canada for the building of the railway, then pay through the nose to use it in future. Also they have to BUY the oil rights which belong to the Crown.
The railways are now all private companies nobody owes anything for them. I assume when you separate you take all rights. There are many landlocked countries that survive quite nicely.


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Also they have to BUY the oil rights which belong to the Crown.

Well isn't the crown Her Majesty's right in Canada? If we remained part of the crown wouldn't all it's assets just become part of Her Majesty's right in Western Canada?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:44 pm
 


If Ontario leaves, it's just to become the 51st State. They have more in common with the USA then anyone else in Canada. :roll:


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If Ontario leaves, it's just to become the 51st State. They have more in common with the USA then anyone else in Canada. :roll:


Ontario is United Empire Loyalisat Country. Try cracking a book sometime to find out what happened and you'll see how stupid your "prediction" is


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:50 pm
 


Clogeroo, I was enjoying our debate.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:53 pm
 


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Also they have to BUY the oil rights which belong to the Crown.

Well isn't the crown Her Majesty's right in Canada? If we remained part of the crown wouldn't all it's assets just become part of Her Majesty's right in Western Canada?


If Alberta sepaRAtes then they aren't part of Canada any more are they??? Just proves all the separatists are idiots


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If Alberta sepaRAtes then they aren't part of Canada any more are they??? Just proves all the separatists are idiots

Yes and if the Queen remains their head of state?

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by all means children should eventually leave home, thats not what I meant. By abandoning the parents I meant that 50-60 years down the road, when they are sick and dying, your not going to abandon them are you? I had to change my grandfathers diapers in his dying days because my mother basically abandoned him. Thats the association I made. if the west were to separate from Canada, it would be as though we are forever abandoning our parents when they did so much to raise us to what we are today.

If Canada was subjugated and starved by an oppressive force that overrun it I would gladly liberate them. I don't think it is forever abandoning for did we forever abandon Britain when we achieved self government? We helped fight two world wars for our King and Empire when we didn't have to at all. Id fight for Canada if they needed our help and we may even have a better armed forces to do it as well.

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In all honesty, I love that system. its pretty much what we have right now, except the countries are provinces and we are somehow unified under one roof. As much as I love this, I'd rather we all be one country, than many inter-connected countries.

I think it might be a better system. It is quite different though because we would split from each other parliaments making us free to make whatever laws we feel or not feel necessary. I would like more a Western Confederation it wouldn't be four different countries but one country with four provinces allowed to govern themselves quite freely.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:13 pm
 


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If Ontario leaves, it's just to become the 51st State. They have more in common with the USA then anyone else in Canada. :roll:


Ontario is United Empire Loyalisat Country. Try cracking a book sometime to find out what happened and you'll see how stupid your "prediction" is


Ouch! That hurt my feelings pussy cat. Ontario is about as connected to the UEL as Pakistan is to Christianity. :lol: Ontario started out that way, but when you started voting for Seperatist Leaders like Chretien and Dion, well you pretty much wrote off the UEL prorgam for good. Hell, John Manley wanted to dump the Queen and Royal family as heads of State....Not that's not very loyal of your people is it! :wink:


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Clogeroo Clogeroo:
If Canada was subjugated and starved by an oppressive force that overrun it I would gladly liberate them. I don't think it is forever abandoning for did we forever abandon Britain when we achieved self government? We helped fight two world wars for our King and Empire when we didn't have to at all. Id fight for Canada if they needed our help and we may even have a better armed forces to do it as well.


again, not what i meant.

Our parents changed our diapers when we were young, just as we will change their diapers when they are old.
The country gave money to the province when it is in need, the province should give money to the country when the country is in need.

If the west separates, i don't think we would be any more willing to hand over cash than we already are.

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I think it might be a better system. It is quite different though because we would split from each other parliaments making us free to make whatever laws we feel or not feel necessary. I would like more a Western Confederation it wouldn't be four different countries but one country with four provinces allowed to govern themselves quite freely.


Logisical system here, who would dominate the west? BC is bigger than Alberta, but Alberta wants independence the most. Does this mean Alberta will be once again bitching when it doesn't get its way the same way it does with Ontario? How would the system be setup?


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