[commanderkai]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I honestly can't see a fundamentalist identity christian preacherriding into Parliament with slate tablets demanding prair in school and stoning gays and adulterers. That might win us some of the left's muslim voters but it's stupid and is against everything the party stands for and has done.

For all the straw men you made, there's more danger to everyone's rights because of the human rights zelots and granting Sharia law to placate minorities.

Read: Stephen Harper

Hasn't this bullshit been crushed after the 2006 election where he took office? No we're not a fucking theocracy, and no the Conservatives will not make it one. At worst, we'll let the church do whatever it wants without its rights being violated. Oh fuck how scary

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[ridenrain]

Since, to get anything done, the CPC minority started making everything a confidance vote, the Liberals have run away from evey one of those votes.
Considering that, what difference would a majority make?

Everything still needs to be pusged through that shithole of a Liberal dominated senate anyways.

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[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Since, to get anything done, the CPC minority started making everything a confidance vote, the Liberals have run away from evey one of those votes.
Considering that, what difference would a majority make?

Everything still needs to be pusged through that shithole of a Liberal dominated senate anyways.

In other words your previous stuff and Harpers about Parlment being disfunctionional was BS eh?

So Parliment was working for Harper yet he lied and broke his own election law for partisan reasons right!

Go ahead spin that. He broke his own law designed to prevent the very thing he himself did yet I don't hear one word of complaint from you.

Go ahead and justify this. I'd love tohave your response on record. In fact I insist.

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[PluggyRug]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Since, to get anything done, the CPC minority started making everything a confidance vote, the Liberals have run away from evey one of those votes.
Considering that, what difference would a majority make?

Everything still needs to be pusged through that shithole of a Liberal dominated senate anyways.

In other words your previous stuff and Harpers about Parlment being disfunctionional was BS eh?

So Parliment was working for Harper yet he lied and broke his own election law for partisan reasons right!

Go ahead spin that. He broke his own law designed to prevent the very thing he himself did yet I don't hear one word of complaint from you.

Go ahead and justify this. I'd love tohave your response on record. In fact I insist.

Thats easy....stemming from a dysfunctional Liberal presence/non presence, the present government was given little choice.

Active government requires input from all political parties, the Liberals usurped common sense in the constant abstaining. Running away from a fight means the fight must take place another day. Now we have the fight being forced and the Liberals have been sucker punched over their Greeny stuff. Now Dion's seconds are telling him to lie down for the 8 count whilst Rea will put on the boxing gloves..

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Since, to get anything done, the CPC minority started making everything a confidance vote, the Liberals have run away from evey one of those votes.
Considering that, what difference would a majority make?

Everything still needs to be pusged through that shithole of a Liberal dominated senate anyways.

In other words your previous stuff and Harpers about Parlment being disfunctionional was BS eh?

So Parliment was working for Harper yet he lied and broke his own election law for partisan reasons right!

Go ahead spin that. He broke his own law designed to prevent the very thing he himself did yet I don't hear one word of complaint from you.

Go ahead and justify this. I'd love tohave your response on record. In fact I insist.

Pully's right but I've said this before.
I'll say it again because you, Derby, are one dense pain in the ass.

Bills need to pass through parliament AND the senate (the sober second thought?) to become law. Remember that? Who dominates the senate? The Libs.

remember this one?

$1:

Harper ready to ask GG to pull plug
If Senate stalls crime bill past March 1, spokesman says Prime Minister would ask Michaelle Jean to dissolve Parliament

Andrew Mayeda, Canwest News Service
Published: Monday, February 11, 2008
OTTAWA -- Prime Minister Stephen Harper is prepared to ask the Governor General to pull the plug on the minority Parliament and trigger a spring election if the Senate does not pass the government's violent-crime bill by March 1.

That means that Dion and his flunkies could wimp out on every single confidance vote but their buddies in the senate could stall these bills untill John Turner got back in. That's why this govenment is innefective, because political appointed hacks in the senate won't do their job. It's foolish to expect the ruling party to have to threaten an election over every bill that parliament passes.

You're party needs to stop playing politics and do the job Canadians elected them to do.

[Libralesso]

Actually I am really thankful that the liberals dominate that senate because that way Harper can't pass his bills. I may not have agreed with the past liberal governments but I am really thankful they were there now that the senate is all liberals.

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[ridenrain]

Libralesso:
Who represents Canada though? The elected members of parliament or some glad handed political flunky rewarded for his reverence to some political party?
Who's doing the will of the people?
Who did you vote for, because it wasn't these senators you advocate.

[Libralesso]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Libralesso:
Who represents Canada though? The elected members of parliament or some glad handed political flunky rewarded for his reverence to some political party?
Who's doing the will of the people?
Who did you vote for, because it wasn't these senators you advocate.

I agree we should have an elected senate, it is stupid that we don't. I was just joking around saying I am glad they are there right now to stop most of Harper's policies. Because once a politician gets a majority they can just place all there yes men in there like previous conservatives and liberals have done, and like Harper will do if he gets a majority. Then my voice will be completely crushed and a lot of voices across Canada, the prime ministers really have to much power in this country. There should be more checks and balances.

EDIT: And I am not saying that only under this Harper government will my and many voices be crushed, it will be the same under any government until we get elected senates.

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Libralesso Libralesso:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Libralesso:
Who represents Canada though? The elected members of parliament or some glad handed political flunky rewarded for his reverence to some political party?
Who's doing the will of the people?
Who did you vote for, because it wasn't these senators you advocate.

I agree we should have an elected senate, it is stupid that we don't. I was just joking around saying I am glad they are there right now to stop most of Harper's policies. Because once a politician gets a majority they can just place all there yes men in there like previous conservatives and liberals have done, and like Harper will do if he gets a majority. Then my voice will be completely crushed and a lot of voices across Canada, the prime ministers really have to much power in this country. There should be more checks and balances.

No. It wasn't a joke. Answer the question.
Who represents Canada, the elected members of parliament or the senate?

Checks and balances? Why now? Where were you when the benevolent dictator ran the country? All the details and warnings that you might think of now were written in Jeffery Simpsons book about the PMO under Chretien. Why must Canada be protected from a right majority when we suffered under far too many left ones?

I've seen a few elections on this site and I've seen noobs like you join, shout out and leave so pardon if I'm a little hostile.

[westmanguy]

err, Mr_Canada...

Manitoba is a Conservative province as well...after this election, I'm pretty sure the make up of the seats will be:

10-11 - Conservative
3-4 - New Democratic
0-1 - Liberal

So if you want your vote to 'count' you'll need to move to Winnipeg, which is turning into a more conservative city, with a economically conservative Mayor and Council, and (after this election) the majority of the seats in Winnipeg will be Conservative. Only the provincial government is left wing here.