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Posts: 12283
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:08 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Streaker Streaker: novachick novachick: lily lily: $1: You are going to tell me now that 9/11 was not about the Kuran?
I will. It was an act of terror, and like all acts of terror and war, it was about power, not religion. Lily you don't get to make up your own little reasons. How dare you deny the people that died during 9/11, the family's of those people the truth of their death because it does not fit your agenda of what is the Canadian PC thing to say. So ALL Christians should be held responsible for the Holocaust? All Nazis and all Germans were. Honestly, all Germans are still held accountable for the Holocaust as Germany continues to make reparations sixty-two years after they surrendered.
Ahhh.... So now it's (conveniently) no longer about religion. ![RTFM [rtfm]](./images/smilies/smilie_rtfm.gif)
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Mustang1
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:09 pm
Streaker Streaker: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Streaker Streaker: novachick novachick: lily lily: $1: You are going to tell me now that 9/11 was not about the Kuran?
I will. It was an act of terror, and like all acts of terror and war, it was about power, not religion. Lily you don't get to make up your own little reasons. How dare you deny the people that died during 9/11, the family's of those people the truth of their death because it does not fit your agenda of what is the Canadian PC thing to say. So ALL Christians should be held responsible for the Holocaust? All Nazis and all Germans were. Honestly, all Germans are still held accountable for the Holocaust as Germany continues to make reparations sixty-two years after they surrendered. Ahhh.... So now it's (conveniently) no longer about religion. ![RTFM [rtfm]](./images/smilies/smilie_rtfm.gif)
Exactly, in that case it's apparently ONLY about nationalism and ideology.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:10 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: I'll wait while you mess around with your issues of fecalphilia and try to mash out a response.
 Nice rhetorical flourish! 
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:10 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: All that it requires to defeat them (the Nazis) is courage to face them, shine the light on the cockroaches and watch them scurry for cover.
It also required 300,000 aircraft, four hundred eighty million tons of explosives, 6,000 surface ships, 800+ submarines, about ten billion rounds of ammunition, around eight million men, and the will to employ all of that to bring about victory.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:12 pm
Dayseed Dayseed: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Islam is unique in the world among the major religions in that it specifically calls for violence and war against non-believers. Yes, other faiths have had their moments in history but all of them have grown up and moved on No Bart, Christianity STILL calls for this in the Bible. Luke 19:27 and Matthew 24:26. Islam is NOT unique. Sorry to burst your bigoted bubble.
What modern sect of Christianity adheres to these parts of Scripture, please?
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Mustang1
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:12 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Zipperfish Zipperfish: All that it requires to defeat them (the Nazis) is courage to face them, shine the light on the cockroaches and watch them scurry for cover. It also required 300,000 aircraft, four hundred eighty million tons of explosives, 6,000 surface ships, 800+ submarines, about ten billion rounds of ammunition, around eight million men, and the will to employ all of that to bring about victory.
Why are you lecturing us? Canada was there in 1939. How about the U.S.?
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:13 pm
Streaker Streaker: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Streaker Streaker: novachick novachick: lily lily: $1: You are going to tell me now that 9/11 was not about the Kuran?
I will. It was an act of terror, and like all acts of terror and war, it was about power, not religion. Lily you don't get to make up your own little reasons. How dare you deny the people that died during 9/11, the family's of those people the truth of their death because it does not fit your agenda of what is the Canadian PC thing to say. So ALL Christians should be held responsible for the Holocaust? All Nazis and all Germans were. Honestly, all Germans are still held accountable for the Holocaust as Germany continues to make reparations sixty-two years after they surrendered. Ahhh.... So now it's (conveniently) no longer about religion. ![RTFM [rtfm]](./images/smilies/smilie_rtfm.gif)
You're the one who mentioned the Holocaust and went off on a tangent. If you didn't want to go there then why did you?
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:13 pm
Dayseed Dayseed: novachick novachick: No I posted the pure unadulterated truth of what the Kuran stands for. I can't help that the truth is ugly, harsh. You want me to stick my head up my ass now and see the Kuran as moderate. It will never happen. If that makes me a bigot then so be it. I for one am NOT going to go all NDP PC and pretend that day didn't happen. Then how about responding to the same "logical" criticisms of Christianity? How come you won't put the shoe on the other foot? Luke 19:27 calls for the death of non-Christians. Why do you tolerate that? Isn't your belief in the partial a belief in the whole? You supported Bart's original post, so it must be true!
I haven't seen any Christian believers fly any planes into two buildings in New York in the name of Allah.
I didn't see christian people rejoicing in the streets because the Americans were dead. Instead I read the kuran became familiar with the muslim religion and made up my mind. I made up my mind based on the present world around me and what was happening in it. Before 9/11 I had never heard much about the muslim religion. Since 9/11 the concessions being made to appease the muslims astounds me. Everyone seems to feel we need to PROVE we are not bigoted against the religion. It's like your all running around trying to say I don't hold 9/11 against you. I will overlook your religious beliefs that lead to the event of 911. If you live in North America and continue to support in any way shape or form the kuran, a religion that forever altered our Countries, that continues to alter the safety of our countries. Do me a favor and get the hell out of it. I don't want you here at the present time. I don't want you on my street. I don't want you on my plane. When I am unable to separate you from who is the threat because you choose to cling to a religion that is the base of that threat. Please leave.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:14 pm
lily lily: Streaker Streaker: Mustang1 Mustang1: I'll wait while you mess around with your issues of fecalphilia and try to mash out a response.  Nice rhetorical flourish!  But he kind of blew it when he said "ignoramus" when "ignoranus" would have fit so much better.

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Mustang1
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:14 pm
lily lily: Streaker Streaker: Mustang1 Mustang1: I'll wait while you mess around with your issues of fecalphilia and try to mash out a response.  Nice rhetorical flourish!  But he kind of blew it when he said "ignoramus" when "ignoranus" would have fit so much better.
Well...this is true. 
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:14 pm
Bart, it doesn't matter. According to your original post, the fact that it is in the bible is proof enough of the evils of Christianity. To point to any one sect is irrelevant according to your original post. They can't come on to refute it, nor can any scholar be trotted out to explain the post away.
I can't help it if you subscribed to an article that merely had as its sole piece of logic the simple discovering of calls for violence in the holy book.
Perhaps you now recognize that your logic is bigoted.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:15 pm
icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Mustang1 Mustang1: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Streaker Streaker: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: ok..lets just cut through the chase and make this as simple as possible(for all the lefties out there)..here we have this religion that actually makes provisions for entrance to heaven by flying jets into civilian targets..not military killing 1000s of innocent ppl...and of course if youre a "good and moral" muslim your reward is an eternity of a non-stop orgy with 72 beautiful virgins..dam..i wonder what happens to muslim women when they kick the bucket pffft.... The Bible is full of goofy stuff, too. Can't help but think that maybe Muslims are the new scapegoats - the new Jews. yes..in the old testament there was some pretty atrocious stuff that resulted in the crusades,witch-hunts and what have you but jesus gave us authorization to discard the old testament and follow his teachings..and call the muslims the new scapegoats or whatever but i want them all dead or their renouncing islam..and comparing them to jews is futile since hitler didnt give the jews the option of renouncing their faith...i'm prepared to extend that to muslims Holy, Himmler, Batman, what the crap is this utter nonsense?!?!?!? Was that a call for genocide?!?!?  not at all...genocide only pertains to humans
Troll alert.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:17 pm
Zipperfish Zipperfish: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Mustang1 Mustang1: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Streaker Streaker: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: ok..lets just cut through the chase and make this as simple as possible(for all the lefties out there)..here we have this religion that actually makes provisions for entrance to heaven by flying jets into civilian targets..not military killing 1000s of innocent ppl...and of course if youre a "good and moral" muslim your reward is an eternity of a non-stop orgy with 72 beautiful virgins..dam..i wonder what happens to muslim women when they kick the bucket pffft.... The Bible is full of goofy stuff, too. Can't help but think that maybe Muslims are the new scapegoats - the new Jews. yes..in the old testament there was some pretty atrocious stuff that resulted in the crusades,witch-hunts and what have you but jesus gave us authorization to discard the old testament and follow his teachings..and call the muslims the new scapegoats or whatever but i want them all dead or their renouncing islam..and comparing them to jews is futile since hitler didnt give the jews the option of renouncing their faith...i'm prepared to extend that to muslims Holy, Himmler, Batman, what the crap is this utter nonsense?!?!?!? Was that a call for genocide?!?!?  not at all...genocide only pertains to humans Troll alert.
Actually, that's an insult to trolls
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icekarma2752
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:17 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Mustang1 Mustang1: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: Zipperfish Zipperfish: icekarma2752 icekarma2752: ok..lets just cut through the chase and make this as simple ... Perhaps a little too simple. heres the deal..rationalize the surgical removal of ones right hand for simple theft,the burying of iranian women up to their neck and pelting them with rocks until dead for adultery(doesnt apply to men),all the islamic countries where men are beat within inches of their lives for shaving their faces,getting 20 lashes on the back for possession of liquor or the same punishment can be meted out in some islamic countries for women who are literate..heres your homework assignment..if youre successful i'll never speak out violently against muslims ever again Is this the case in Turkey? nice dodge..sorry i lied...very shitty dodge How's that a dodge, Bigot-boy? I'll wait while you mess around with your issues of fecalphilia and try to mash out a response. I also noticed, dullard, that you didn't answer the question. So in addition to being an ignoramus, dogmatist, you're also a coward. Typical
yep..when youre on the losing side and all else fails..resort to childish name-calling..i gave you a very simple task..rationalize all that barbaric shit i mentioned...i dont give a hairy rats ass about turkey..and it takes a lot of guts to call someone a coward when you know you'll never have to face them key-board cowboy
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:18 pm
Mustang1 Mustang1: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Zipperfish Zipperfish: All that it requires to defeat them (the Nazis) is courage to face them, shine the light on the cockroaches and watch them scurry for cover. It also required 300,000 aircraft, four hundred eighty million tons of explosives, 6,000 surface ships, 800+ submarines, about ten billion rounds of ammunition, around eight million men, and the will to employ all of that to bring about victory. Why are you lecturing us? Canada was there in 1939. How about the U.S.?
The USA and Germany had a separate peace from 1921 that had not been abrogated. So where were you in 1933, 1935, 1937, and 1938 when the Germans repeatedly wiped their asses with Versailles?
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