[Newsbot]

Title: Anti-austerity protests spark violent clashes in Greece
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: Scape
Date: 2011-02-23 17:33:10

[martin14]

$1:

"The working class must impose a halt on debt repayments," she told AFP.

Ya, there's an economics wizard for you.

[ShepherdsDog]

I've got a Greek friend who is comparing the Greek riots to the uprisings in North Africa (He lives and works in England) They are polar opposites. One is oppressed peoples who have had enough of being kicked around and oppressed, while the Greeks are a bunch of lazy bastards who think they are entitled to live like kings and not work for their benefits. These riots are a temper tantrum from a spoiled and indulged populace. let the bastards go tits up.

[Scape]

Jon said the same thing about the Scott Walker protests

It's like c'mon guys this is NOT the same thing!

[martin14]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I've got a Greek friend

Yeah, I've got one of those too, everyone should have one.


He still thinks the government should be spending money to create economic opportunities, which this EU money doesnt do.

But, if you want the loan, you live with the conditions.
Don't like the conditions ? Return the money and walk away.
Opps, cant return the money, already spent it.


They should not have been bailed out in the first place, better to let them
go bankrupt.

[ShepherdsDog]

We used to let him argue in class until he came full circle and defeated his initial position....big surprise he has a Ph.D in Philosophy.

[Bacardi4206]

Here is the video http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a7_1298473123

[Prof_Chomsky]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

I've got a Greek friend who is comparing the Greek riots to the uprisings in North Africa (He lives and works in England) They are polar opposites. One is oppressed peoples who have had enough of being kicked around and oppressed, while the Greeks are a bunch of lazy bastards who think they are entitled to live like kings and not work for their benefits. These riots are a temper tantrum from a spoiled and indulged populace. let the bastards go tits up.

You do realize the reason Greece is being forced into these Austerity measures isn't that they overspent and under taxed right? They invested in TRIPLE A rated, INSURED securities with US banks that turned out to be FRAUDULANT...
The banks who perpetrated that fraud walked away with the tens of billions of dollars, and left Greece holding the bag. If I were Greece I'd tell them to go #$*% themselves and demand a criminal investigation.

[Lemmy]

The same mentality and false-conclusions are leading all the recent union bashing in Wisconsin and elsewhere in America. The teachers' unions are the ones that ate the brunt of the financial meltdown, losing their savings to criminal bankers. Now the public wants blood? Fucking hell! These people already gave at the office.

[andyt]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

You do realize the reason Greece is being forced into these Austerity measures isn't that they overspent and under taxed right? They invested in TRIPLE A rated, INSURED securities with US banks that turned out to be FRAUDULANT...
The banks who perpetrated that fraud walked away with the tens of billions of dollars, and left Greece holding the bag. If I were Greece I'd tell them to go #$*% themselves and demand a criminal investigation.

I think both are true. The Greek govt colluded with Goldman Sachs to make their financial position seem rosier than it was, so the EU would not force them to change. They have an economy that is based in large part on working for the govt - very little private industry except tourism. They were living beyond their means. But then so is ever western Country - always borrowing because tomorrow will be better, but that tomorrow (repayment) never comes - except with Paul Martin. And as in other western countries, the rich took all the spoils, while the austerity measures fall on the middle class and poor. It's happening in the US, it will happen here too. If they US thinks they can save themselves by cutting Social Security and Medicare, they're in for some exciting times as well.

[BartSimpson]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

a bunch of lazy bastards who think they are entitled to live like kings and not work for their benefits.

Oh...the Greeks.

Okay, for a moment I thought you were talking about Andy and Prof. Chomsky.

[BartSimpson]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

Here is the video http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7a7_1298473123

If the leftists here ever start tossing Molotovs at the police then I will be a-okay with the police returning fire. There is NO EXCUSE for trying to kill people so you can keep your vacation benefits.

[Prof_Chomsky]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

a bunch of lazy bastards who think they are entitled to live like kings and not work for their benefits.

Oh...the Greeks.

Okay, for a moment I thought you were talking about Andy and Prof. Chomsky.

Spoken like a true US "conservative".
I'd put my life's work, education, success and accomplishments up against your own any day. And my parent's were near pennyless - we had no help.

It's my experience radical right wing neo-cons are lucky to have completed high school (and statistically accurate by the way). Explains the anger too.

[andyt]

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

I'd put my life's work, education, success and accomplishments up against your own any day. And my parent's were near pennyless - we had no help.

You've just made Bart's day. If you can do it, all those other lazy sobs can too, right? There's room at the top for everybody.

[Prof_Chomsky]

andyt andyt:

Prof_Chomsky Prof_Chomsky:

I'd put my life's work, education, success and accomplishments up against your own any day. And my parent's were near pennyless - we had no help.

You've just made Bart's day. If you can do it, all those other lazy sobs can too, right? There's room at the top for everybody.

But that's just it. I didn't "make it". I did everything I was supposed to do and more, and I was blessed with some gifts other people aren't that gave me an edge... and my prize was becoming a middle class wage slave who's life can be destroyed the next time my employer decides share prices need to rise 1% and they should lay off workers and make everyone else work harder.