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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:25 am
 


Title: Arctic heat waves cause exceptional Greenland melt, says new study
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Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2016-04-05 14:32:04


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:25 am
 


so what..

do some real research..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRCISn1KfKQ


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:35 am
 


Like this kind of research?

https://www.skepticalscience.com/Bob_Carter_arg.htm

Or the kind of research in the article?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:40 am
 


$1:
Influxes of warm air from lower latitudes may be causing highest melt rates


"may be"

Fox farts 'may be' causing this, too.

'may be' nothing at all is actually happening.

'may be' that the US Presidential Primary race is causing ice to melt in Greenland.

May be. :idea:

Lots of things 'may be' doing something.

Come back at me when you know something and aren't just making shit up.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:51 am
 


The crux seems to be that the GCMs were relying to much on radiative transfer and not enough on convection heat transfer. Understandable to a certain extent, because I imagine convection must be much more difficult to model. But this may answer the question as to why the Antarctic and Arctic are behaving so differently. Convection heat transfer would be much more profoundly impacted by the water/land ratio (which is much greater in the southern hemisphere) than radiative heat transfer.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:57 am
 


Well that explains the sun burn I got while at the beach this past weekend.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:07 pm
 


uwish uwish:
so what..

do some real research..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRCISn1KfKQ


Real research is published on youtube? ROTFL


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:49 pm
 


Some interesting info...........

http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/ ... e-warming/


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:51 pm
 


So if I'm reading the CBC climate scare of the afternoon correctly there have been bursts of sudden, anomalous, regional melting on Greenland.

This can only be caused by one thing, of course.

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But wait, perhaps this other "new study" CBC forgot to tell you about might offer one more of many possible explanations.

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Ice-penetrating radar and ice core drilling4 have shown that large parts of the north-central Greenland ice sheet are melting from below. It has been argued that basal ice melt is due to the anomalously high geothermal flux that has also influenced the development of the longest ice stream in Greenland.


http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop ... o2689.html

There's lots of claims. I don't mind the hypothesis of the CBC's "new study" either. Variations of the theory that postulates currents and wind as cause for much of the recent Arctic melt have been around for awhile.

I'm just not so sure I see any proof that CO2 expulsion from the global warming monster is the final explanation as cause.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:13 am
 


N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I'm just not so sure I see any proof that CO2 expulsion from the global warming monster is the final explanation as cause.


Oh really? So then you've completed your study on how the relationship between CO2 emissions and rising temperatures isn't in direct accord with the laws of physics?

This aught to be a good read!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:56 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I'm just not so sure I see any proof that CO2 expulsion from the global warming monster is the final explanation as cause.


Oh really? So then you've completed your study on how the relationship between CO2 emissions and rising temperatures isn't in direct accord with the laws of physics?

This aught to be a good read!


Never knew we had a future Nobel Prize winner on the forum. 8O


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:01 am
 


At least the climate change denial has minimized around here. Most deniers seem to have warmed to the concept. Scratch the pun: "acquiesced.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:38 am
 


Yep and it only took a decade of beating them over the head with truth, time and time again, as they kicked and screamed like a 3 year old being forced to take his medicine. Was worth it but there's much left to do. Good job guys! [B-o]


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:23 am
 


sandorski sandorski:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
I'm just not so sure I see any proof that CO2 expulsion from the global warming monster is the final explanation as cause.


Oh really? So then you've completed your study on how the relationship between CO2 emissions and rising temperatures isn't in direct accord with the laws of physics?

This aught to be a good read!


Never knew we had a future Nobel Prize winner on the forum. 8O

I think he is waiting for his Booker Prize before he publishes his science :P


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:32 am
 


That's great news, he can put it on his mantle next to his "Most likely to use a Blog as a News Source" award from high school.


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