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Title: Canada a queer place
Category: Misc CDN
Posted By: Alta_redneck
Date: 2009-09-26 07:45:34
Canadian

[Strutz]

I must admit I googled "Canada queer hall of fame" because I thought the writer was joking. It really exists.

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This sublime and workable ideal was carefully torn apart during 20 years of political and judicial interference, leading to a society today where we are defined by what offends or supports our various ethnic, sexual and religious causes and not by red and white, the Canadian passport or the authentic history and meaning of Canada.

Sad but true.

[leewgrant]

Muslims and Jews have their own places of worship; star trek fans have their own conventions. Gays have a right to their own institutions too.

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Gay people have a right to be gay. Just as Muslim or Jewish people, sports fans or Star Trek devotees or anybody else have a perfect right to be exactly who they are and what they want to be. But their first and most important loyalty should not be to their sexuality, religion or hobby but to their citizenship. This was the case at one time in our history but no longer.

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[Strutz]

leewgrant leewgrant:

Muslims and Jews have their own places of worship; star trek fans have their own conventions. Gays have a right to their own institutions too.

I don't have a problem with this. In this country everyone can be whoever or whatever they want to be thanks to the freedoms we enjoy. I had just not heard of the "Hall of Fame" before. Do people who are Muslim and Jewish have Halls of Fame too?

My main point was this

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...a society today where we are defined by what offends or supports our various ethnic, sexual and religious causes and not by red and white, the Canadian passport or the authentic history and meaning of Canada.

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[leewgrant]

Strutz Strutz:

I don't have a problem with this. In this country everyone can be whoever or whatever they want to be thanks to the freedoms we enjoy. I had just not heard of the "Hall of Fame" before. Do people who are Muslim and Jewish have Halls of Fame too?

My main point was this

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...a society today where we are defined by what offends or supports our various ethnic, sexual and religious causes and not by red and white, the Canadian passport or the authentic history and meaning of Canada.

Halls of Fame are erected to a certain group - ones that come to mind are country music, rock and roll, hockey, baseball etc. Just because Jews or Muslims don't have one seems a poor reason to prevent other groups from having one if they wish.

Bobby Orr is no less a Canadian for being in the hockey hall of fame. And you can be a Catholic and a Canadian at the same time just as you can be gay and be a Canadian.

[Tricks]

You guys still aren't getting it. He's saying that we are defined more by our ethnic or religious or sexual orientation traits than by being Canadian. Those matter more to us.

[leewgrant]

Tricks Tricks:

You guys still aren't getting it. He's saying that we are defined more by our ethnic or religious or sexual orientation traits than by being Canadian. Those matter more to us.

That might be true in some instances and in the case of first generation immigrants but as a generalization I don't agree with it.

And I still don't see how a gay hall of fame makes gays "less" Canadian.

[Hyack]

The first thing that entered my mind when I read this was.....

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