[Newsbot]

Title: Harper rips Obama, U.S. consumers, Liberals
Category: Political
Posted By: hurley_108
Date: 2009-03-13 14:19:24
Canadian

[ridenrain]

.. and here it is.

Rather than listen to how the Canadian media is going to spin this, listen to it directly:

http://davidakin.blogware.com/blog/_arc ... 21881.html

(NOT a good recording.)

[romanP]

$1:

But, Harper gave a passionate defence of conservatism. "Regulators may have failed to prevent (the recession) but, in the end, it was a failure of the private sector to live according to the values we as conservatives know to be true," he said. "Thankfully, Canadians, among few nations in the Western world, did not embrace this idea so recklessly."

Wow. That comment is swimming in its own hypocrisy and cynicism. The past fifteen years have been all about deregulation, and Stephen Harper intends to continue that trend... so he blames regulators (aka the federal government, which he now leads) for not stopping those who want everything deregulated, and private industry for doing what it has always done, which is why we need regulation?

[DrJones]

$1:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the recession was caused by American consumers and investors who believed in the "unconservative" idea that they could borrow without consequences.

He's completely right about this. Everyone thought the money-train would never stop. And they borrowed recklessly and let greed run their entire lives. No one who is truly "conservative" - in politics or in personality - would conduct their affairs in such a manner.

[RUEZ]

DrJones DrJones:

$1:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the recession was caused by American consumers and investors who believed in the "unconservative" idea that they could borrow without consequences.

He's completely right about this. Everyone thought the money-train would never stop. And they borrowed recklessly and let greed run their entire lives. No one who is truly "conservative" - in politics or in personality - would conduct their affairs in such a manner.

Consumers are part of the problem but so are the banks and the government that stood by while it all happened. This recession wasn't even a surprise, they knew the sub prime mortgages were going to bite them in the ass and they did nothing.

[Tricks]

RUEZ RUEZ:

DrJones DrJones:

$1:

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said the recession was caused by American consumers and investors who believed in the "unconservative" idea that they could borrow without consequences.

He's completely right about this. Everyone thought the money-train would never stop. And they borrowed recklessly and let greed run their entire lives. No one who is truly "conservative" - in politics or in personality - would conduct their affairs in such a manner.

Consumers are part of the problem but so are the banks and the government that stood by while it all happened. This recession wasn't even a surprise, they knew the sub prime mortgages were going to bite them in the ass and they did nothing.

Very true. Banks really shouldn't get in the habit of lending money to people who can't afford it.

[sandorski]

He's right, Consumers/Lending Institutions didn't act in a conservative manner. Which is why conservatism shouldn't have issues with Regulation. Regulation is not meant to stifle Business, it is meant to curtail stupid Business Practices that have surfaced nearly everytime Regulation is relaxed to allow it.

[hurley_108]

Whatever he said, whether it was true or not, whether it was in jest or not, just should not be said to any audience as a sitting PM. Even if his comments were taken out of context (I don't really feel like spending a lot of time listening to the recording), they still shouldn't have been said. It's foolishness to make statements that can be taken out of context at the best of time, and these are not such times.

[ridenrain]

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Whatever he said, whether it was true or not, whether it was in jest or not, just should not be said to any audience as a sitting PM. Even if his comments were taken out of context (I don't really feel like spending a lot of time listening to the recording), they still shouldn't have been said. It's foolishness to make statements that can be taken out of context at the best of time, and these are not such times.

That's one hell of an open minded, objective position you have there. You didn't listen to it, whatever it was, even if it was true, he shouldn't have said it.

I don't put much consideration in you're stuff anymore but thanks for making it obvious for others.

[kenmore]

Well we all know the mans a tool.. major loser and wannabe king.. little big man syndrome big time.. he didnt think there was a problem with the economy and he keeps telling major lies about our economy.. and he is.. in english.. twofaced.. ya twofaced.

[RUEZ]

kenmore kenmore:

Well we all know the mans a tool.. major loser and wannabe king.. little big man syndrome big time.. he didnt think there was a problem with the economy and he keeps telling major lies about our economy.. and he is.. in english.. twofaced.. ya twofaced.

I'm waiting for the day you make a mature, well thought out post.

[kenmore]

The conservative idea is the rich get rich and the poor go screw themselves. lie, cheat and steal from the ordinary man.. vote for that.. not!

[RUEZ]

kenmore kenmore:

The conservative idea is the rich get rich and the poor go screw themselves. lie, cheat and steal from the ordinary man.. vote for that.. not!

Where do you find this? How did you come to this conclusion?

[herbie]

At least he's polite about it.
Trashing and mocking Dion's Green plan and then the public statements while embracing Obama's was about as two-faced as you can get.
Far politer than ball-licking sycophant like I'd use to describe his policy towards the U.S.A.

[hurley_108]

ridenrain ridenrain:

hurley_108 hurley_108:

Whatever he said, whether it was true or not, whether it was in jest or not, just should not be said to any audience as a sitting PM. Even if his comments were taken out of context (I don't really feel like spending a lot of time listening to the recording), they still shouldn't have been said. It's foolishness to make statements that can be taken out of context at the best of time, and these are not such times.

That's one hell of an open minded, objective position you have there. You didn't listen to it, whatever it was, even if it was true, he shouldn't have said it.

I don't put much consideration in you're stuff anymore but thanks for making it obvious for others.

I'll save my objectivity for where it's due, thanks.

And please forgive me (although I know you won't) if I have no sympathy for the leader of the party that took out of context comments made between leadership contestants of another party in ads attacking that other party.