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Benoit
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:15 pm
To improve Canada and the World at the same time, we have to implement the Lockean proviso.
In the Second Treatise of Government, John Locke puts forward his account of how a man may legitimately appropriate goods from the state of nature for his private use by mixing his labour with them:
"Whatsoever then he removes out of the State that Nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his Labour with, and joyned to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his Property. It being by him removed from the common state Nature placed it in, hath by this labour something annexed to it, that excludes the common right of other Men. For this Labour being the unquestionable Property of the Labourer, no Man but he can have a right to what that is once joyned to, at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for other."
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Mustang1
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:38 pm
[quote="Benoit"]To improve Canada and the World at the same time, we have to implement the Lockean proviso.
In the Second Treatise of Government, John Locke puts forward his account of how a man may legitimately appropriate goods from the state of nature for his private use by mixing his labour with them:
“Whatsoever then he removes out of the State that Nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his Labour with, and joyned to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his Property. It being by him removed from the common state Nature placed it in, hath by this labour something annexed to it, that excludes the common right of other Men. For this Labour being the unquestionable Property of the Labourer, no Man but he can have a right to what that is once joyned to, at least where there is enough, and as good left in common for other.â€
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:06 pm
Did Benoit ever get back to me about posting a picture of his car so I can decide if I want to drive it on the weekend?
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Benoit
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:26 pm
What it costs for a car manufacturer to appropriate/monopolize the common name mustang for one of his contemporary model should be related to the accessibility of enough and as good other car names left for all the other manufacturers to take.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:05 pm
Benoit Benoit: What it costs for a car manufacturer to appropriate/monopolize the common name mustang for one of his contemporary model should be related to the accessibility of enough and as good other car names left for all the other manufacturers to take.
And this relates to individual property rights how? Ya' got caught again as Locke was addressing land rights in a 17th century perspective (others have expanded on this) and if we freely followed the unrelated nonsense you offered up, Ford should be entitled to the name "Mustang" as their labour (marketing, advertising and product development + sales) was indeed used in its usage
Now, this improves Canada and the World how?
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Benoit
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:00 pm
Basically, Locke was trying to be a good Christian. A Christian in possession of a surplus has a duty to help the needy, whatever the origin of his surplus (hard work, thriftiness, etc.) and whatever the cause of the vital need (laziness, parasitism, etc.). Implementing this duty is favourable to economic growth and development through international stability and cooperation; in other words, implementing this duty is keeping at bay the law of the jungle where killing to survive is the utmost natural right.
http://www.jstor.org/view/00318094/di983034/98p0189q/0
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Benoit
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:13 am
Where and when there is not enough for others, stealing a property and parasitism of workers can become a natural right to take what one needs to self-preservation.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:50 pm
Yeah...thought so...you got caught, yet again, aping and name-dropping. Next time post the link
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Benoit
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:10 pm
"At least where" means "certainly where". To Locke, it's so easy for a worker to make sure he doesn't make the life of anyone worse off because of his work that he writes his "proviso" as if it was a no brainer and almost a (involuntary) matter of fact.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:14 pm
Ok...still name-dropping and there's nothing even rometly applicable from your posts to modern situations.
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Benoit
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:20 pm
For Locke, implementing the condition seems automatic because he conceives private appropriation as a reduction of the pressure that those living out of the common encounter.
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:55 pm
Won't fool me...you've got nothing other than an intellectual inferiority complex.
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Benoit
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Mustang1
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:07 pm
Again...just posting anything isn't something. I guess this stuff wows them at the bus stop, but nonsensical immaterial mush won't change the fact that you're aping without a license
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:04 pm
Does this guy need another person present to carry on a conversation?
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