[Alta_redneck]

[PluggyRug]

llama66 llama66:

As bad as things are here in Alberta, at least we are not in the position Ontario is in

Things are bad in Alberta because of the Saudi generated oil collapse.

Things are bad in Ontario because of the stupidity of the McGuinty and now Wynne 'governments'. I'd take Notley over Wynne anyday. At least she doesn't walk around with a dumb, fixed, empty headed grin on her face.

[llama66]

Exactly. That and the NDP don't seem to be pissing money away quite like the liberals. But who knows, maybe the NDP can find a way to surprise us.

[BeaverFever]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

:lol:

The meme is false.

First of all, the price of oil was SKYROCKETING from $40 to $50 AND CLIMBING around the time Klein paid off the debt.

Second of all, $35 in 2016 is the inflation-adjusted equivalent of $28.50 in 2004. The (at worst) $40 oil during the Klein debt payoff would be the equivalent of almost $50 oil today.

$1:

the "Klein Revolution", or The Alberta Advantage, as Klein called it, Klein slashed government spending by deep cuts – more than 20 per cent – in public spending[5] resulting in massive job losses in the public sector. His government took a knife to funding for arts and health programs, going so far as to demolish hospitals, laying off thousands of nurses, and selling off the provincial public telephone company, AGT to private interests.[23] Without necessary infrastructure, Alberta was unprepared for the boom times.[24]...n October 1998 Klein had the old Calgary General Hospital demolished with explosives.[27]
In July 2005 Klein delivered a speech on the his "third way" in health care which would lie between the American system and the Canadian system.[28] He proposed a series of provincial health care reforms that would potentially violate the Canada Health Act. Klein's reforms for Alberta would have permitted for-profit care and made it possible to jump queues, to "allow patients to pay cash for some surgery and let doctors practice in both the public and private health systems." Public outcry forced the government to listen to Albertans and the third way was not legislated.[28]Klein responded by exclaiming, "I don't need this crap" and throwing the Liberal health care policy book at a seventeen-year-old page who had delivered the book during question period in the Alberta legislature.[30]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Kle ... y_campaign

Sounds like an amazing direction for you to re-explore! How will Alberta righties select the child for the Premier's book-throwing fits? Is it a lottery like in Hunger Games?

[Alta_redneck]

She's still wearing her hat on backwards.

[Alta_redneck]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

When you don't have a job, and the roof needs shingling, sometimes you have to pull out the credit card and just get the roof fixed. Then pay it off when you have a job again. Better that the roof doesn't leak, and you carry a little debt for a while.

Life is a balance.

Unfortunately their using the credit card just to make sure there's ass wipe in the toilets and tampons in the machines for the ladies.

[llama66]

To be fair, would you want to deal with someone who smelled like shit all the time?

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Thanos Thanos:

Austerity is disastrous enough in good times. Doing it in bad times would be nothing less than catastrophic.

What will you ever do when the credit card eventually runs out and you get hit with a double dose of austerity?

Because then you'll have decreased revenues, a high debt load, and no way to subsidize the budget with more borrowed money.

In short, you'll be Puerto Rico.

When you don't have a job, and the roof needs shingling, sometimes you have to pull out the credit card and just get the roof fixed. Then pay it off when you have a job again. Better that the roof doesn't leak, and you carry a little debt for a while.

Life is a balance.

Says the Government employee who's job is protected by Notley and her Motley Crew.

[bootlegga]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

bootlegga bootlegga:

When I worked at Transportation in 2014 on contract, they were already 120 or so staff below the levels mandated under Klein/Stelmach, as were most other ministries. IIRC, the entire government was a couple thousand employees below the mandated size, mostly due to wave after wave of hiring freezes since 2008/9. And in most ministries, when long term employees retire, they just eliminate the position and farm out he work to other employees.

The big cuts in transportation were in the late 90's, take a highway project like twinning the Yellowhead. On a job like that, Transportation would have 2 survey crews = 12, 2 soils tech crews =4, one on job Super and a project manager. When that work went private those 18 jobs were done by 4 individuals from the private sector, 2 surveyors and 1 soils person and we would wait less for surveying or compaction results with just 3 doing the job compared to 6 to 8 trannys.

Yep, and all those easy cuts were made long ago - all that's left are the doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, social workers, and other specialists that cost twice as much in a privatized system. So which front line workers are the Wildrose going to cut to balance the budget?

I'm asking because their magic plan to balance the budget has never been made public - and probably never will unless they form the government, because they know it would be as popular as a cop in whorehouse.

[bootlegga]

Alta_redneck Alta_redneck:

:lol:

Let's not forget that natural gas rates were four or five times higher than now - and represented by far the bulk of the royalties during Klein's tenure...

[Canadian_Mind]

llama66 llama66:

As bad as things are here in Alberta, at least we are not in the position Ontario is in

Reason #1 to partition the country. Let Ontario and Quebec go bankrupt without taking down everyone else with them. Once that's happened, we can all get back together in one big happy federation without that massive weight strung about our neck.

[DrCaleb]

BRAH BRAH:

Says the Government employee who's job is protected by Notley and her Motley Crew.

I'm not a government employee. Why can't that little fact sink in to your brain?

[BeaverFever]

Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind:

llama66 llama66:

As bad as things are here in Alberta, at least we are not in the position Ontario is in

Reason #1 to partition the country. Let Ontario and Quebec go bankrupt without taking down everyone else with them. Once that's happened, we can all get back together in one big happy federation without that massive weight strung about our neck.

$1:

Encouraging economic outlook for most Ontario cities in 2016

OTTAWA, Aug. 10, 2016 /CNW/ - Most Ontario cities can expect real GDP growth above 2 per cent this year, according to The Conference Board of Canada's Metropolitan Outlook: Summer 2016.

"The weaker Canadian dollar and moderate demand from the U.S. continue to provide a lift to many Southwestern and Eastern Ontario metropolitan economies and their respective manufacturing industries," said Alan Arcand, Associate Director, Centre for Municipal Studies, The Conference Board of Canada.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/en ... 23621.html

[raydan]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

Says the Government employee who's job is protected by Notley and her Motley Crew.

I'm not a government employee. Why can't that little fact sink in to your brain?

Brain?

[BRAH]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BRAH BRAH:

Says the Government employee who's job is protected by Notley and her Motley Crew.

I'm not a government employee. Why can't that little fact sink in to your brain?

Liar, I've seen your Tardis there.