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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:38 am
 


I'm pretty sure it was covered in an episode of CBC's "Marketplace". Freaking love that show. Um, not exactly in the position to search for it. I'll get back to you. They focused on Ontario, but their wording implied this was a national problem, and they asked for people to message them about rule breakers near them.

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EDIT: I was wrong about it being Marketplace, but right about it being CBC. I watched it on TV though, not through this article.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:49 am
 


Using the media as a source of legal knowledge and jurisprudence is fraught with credibilty issues. No insults PD, I'm just telling it as I see it.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:57 am
 


Yes, i agree with that entirely. I can't count with just two hands the number of facts and info bits I've had disproven in my face despite sources many would hope are credible enough to speak with authority.

I promise I haven't been going to stores or berating police officers with what little information i really have on the topic. The concept surprised me when i watched it, but I do support it. I'd like to know who's recording my images at any given moment, and who I can contact in regards to that. Signs don't seem like a significantly difficult thing to demand.

Not saying I'd be happy with cameras at all personally, as I have significant political issues with that, but I have no doubt in my mind that people would feel ease with knowing who owns the cameras and giving them more control as to address their issues of privacy.

A "have your cake and eat it too" type deal.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:11 am
 


Well, Big Brother is here. Only not in the way Orwell thought (maybe in the UK) but in a kind of collective and NGO invasion of our privacy with our consent. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube etc. People post information that would never be released or looked at by a government agency. By their own consent.

Maybe we should say 'little Brother is watching you.'

Your image is gathered hourly by business or numerous other people not linked to the police or the oppressive regimes of Harper et al.

There are very few actual CCTV cameras that are run by police agencies in Canada. I think Toronto have like 5 cameras. I'd take what you see on any of these 'investigative journalism' shows with a big fuck-off chunk of salt. The media isn't in the business of telling the truth.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:46 am
 


I care about both. Corporate or government, I want to know why there's a camera pointing at me. If there's only 5 in T-Dot that are government, I'd even more would like to know which corporate entity is recording my stroll down the street.

I take decent care not to be recorded: I don't shop much. 7/11 has my face, a few liquor stores, and so does Wal-Mart, if I've been near any of the "real" cameras they scatter around that place. Outside of that, just companies who place cameras in the streets, whoever the hell they are.

Cameras are meant to be scary... I was stunned when i got hired at a retail outlet and of the 4 cameras they had staring at customers with blinking lights and cords running to the back of the store, absolutely none of them were real. At another store, there was a working camera; but the tape was never reviewed and was always recorded over the next day.

As far as the social media stuff... Yep, I agree completely.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:19 am
 


I agree PD. But that Pandora's box was opened in the 1970's (CCTV). At least the cops have to tell you you are on video. I'd say the other 99% of video is recorded without your consent quite lawfully. Social media has made detection of crime much easier. People seem to enjoy recording themselves breaking the law then they post it on the internet.

I would think that these terrorists will be on camera prepping and undertaking their murder and maiming of innocents. I'm pretty confident the Yanks will get these guys. While society may have been lulled back into a bit of complacency in the 11 years since the 911 attacks, law enforcement/intelligence and counter-intelligence haven't.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:50 am
 


I can't really imagine these people getting away.

Just not an option.

Hopefully that happens soon. Today sounds good to me.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:22 am
 


I hope the bastards try and resist being arrested


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:56 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
I agree PD. But that Pandora's box was opened in the 1970's (CCTV). At least the cops have to tell you you are on video. I'd say the other 99% of video is recorded without your consent quite lawfully. Social media has made detection of crime much easier. People seem to enjoy recording themselves breaking the law then they post it on the internet.

I would think that these terrorists will be on camera prepping and undertaking their murder and maiming of innocents. I'm pretty confident the Yanks will get these guys. While society may have been lulled back into a bit of complacency in the 11 years since the 911 attacks, law enforcement/intelligence and counter-intelligence haven't.

Social media played a key role in the arrest of the Vancouver rioters and possibly in the aftermath of this attack. People always whine about losing their freedoms with cameras on every street corner well there's a reason they're needed and like in the aftermath of the London bombings where CCTV lead to the identity of the Terrorists it will hopefully do the same here.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:12 am
 


I wonder though, what will be needed next?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:29 am
 


Thanos Thanos:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Kindly do a little research before posting these rants, m'kay? Thanks. [B-o]


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Remind yourself of this when SCOTUS or the other courts toss out almost all of the post-Newton gun control laws, which they do on a regular basis.


Again, do a little research before posting this kind of crap or else I'll make you look stupid, not that you're doing a bad job of it on your own. :P

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/us/po ... .html?_r=0


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:56 am
 


BRAH BRAH:
Social media played a key role in the arrest of the Vancouver rioters and possibly in the aftermath of this attack. People always whine about losing their freedoms with cameras on every street corner well there's a reason they're needed and like in the aftermath of the London bombings where CCTV lead to the identity of the Terrorists it will hopefully do the same here.


Cameras will do nothing against suiciders. Or just people smart enough to disguise themselves.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:13 am
 


Interesting comment on the radio:

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Bill Ayers didn't blow up the Boston Marathon, but somebody like him did. Somebody like him did, and that could mean that whoever did this could someday be celebrated in this country if things don't change. Whoever did it could end up being on the faculty at Columbia University.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:14 am
 


Imgur post from a 4chan poster is going viral at the moment:

http://imgur.com/a/sUrnA


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:17 am
 


The thing about The Weather Underground is the only bomb victims they had were themselves.

They weren't in the business of senseless murder. The blew up political targets and symbols. The busted brick and mortar, and warned people to get out of there.

I'm sorry but I do believe there's a difference between attacking structures, and attacking human beings.


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