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Posts: 65472
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:21 am
What Charles just said!
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:57 am
The Trudeau government isn't causing this. The Trump government is.
Canadian policies have not changed. American policies have.
Our two countries have generally had similar refugee policies and this has helped keep the world's longest undefended border working smoothly.
We should be sending Trump an invoice for all the extra processing.
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Posts: 51981
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:59 am
Robair Robair: The Trudeau government isn't causing this. The Trump government is.
Canadian policies have not changed. American policies have.
Our two countries have generally had similar refugee policies and this has helped keep the world's longest undefended border working smoothly.
We should be sending Trump an invoice for all the extra processing. We sent Haitian refugees back 3 years ago. If Trudeau wasn't following international law by giving them a hearing before deportation, people would bitch about that.
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Coach85
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:17 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Coach85 Coach85: Why are we just allowing this to happen? 'Allow' how? People illegally cross the border, they are arrested. They claim refugee status under international law, they will get a court date and probably be deported. What are we 'allowing'? Point being, we don't prevent the crime from happening. In fact, we welcome, even encourage them with open arms to break the law.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:18 am
The Chretien-MartinJr-Harper-TrudeauJr merry-go-round cabal were complicit in destabilizing Haiti and kid-napping their democratically elected leader. Canuckletards sat and watched..... now have amnesia. Robair Robair: The Trudeau government isn't causing this. The Trump government is. You reveal your cards too easily. Oh, I get it! In your fantasy world, the Clitnots had nothing to do with diddling Haitian children! ---- None of this is difficult to figure out. Refugees (from anywhere) do not travel for free. SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE is paying for their travel costs. If you want to send a bill to somebody, go find out who is bringing these poor people into the Great White North.
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Posts: 51981
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:36 am
Coach85 Coach85: DrCaleb DrCaleb: Coach85 Coach85: Why are we just allowing this to happen? 'Allow' how? People illegally cross the border, they are arrested. They claim refugee status under international law, they will get a court date and probably be deported. What are we 'allowing'? Point being, we don't prevent the crime from happening. In fact, we welcome, even encourage them with open arms to break the law. Point being, we have zero control of who leaves the US, but we can and do arrest them for illegal immigration when they don't do it at a proper border crossing. What else is there to do? Nothing. Therefore we don't 'allow' anything.
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Posts: 51981
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:38 am
CharlesAnthony CharlesAnthony: None of this is difficult to figure out. Refugees (from anywhere) do not travel for free. SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE is paying for their travel costs. If you want to send a bill to somebody, go find out who is bringing these poor people into the Great White North.
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Posts: 9445
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:47 am
Send them back, it's not fair to immigrants who become Canadians through the legal channels not jumping a border.
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Posts: 51981
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:57 am
BRAH BRAH: Send them back, it's not fair to immigrants who become Canadians through the legal channels not jumping a border. That's illegal. They have to have a hearing if they claim refugee status. Since we revoked that status for Haitians 4 years ago, they will be deported after their hearing. That's legal.
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Posts: 11682
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:53 pm
Deport some AFTER they cherry-pick the ones to keep. IF you don't personally have 3 or more kids, STFU. We need more people.
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Posts: 8157
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:08 pm
Brah, Coach, Charles... ...anybody else on this thread with a similar mindset:
Kindly explain to me what you think the difference is between an immigrant and a refugee.
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Posts: 11682
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:13 pm
Come on you anti-immigrants, man up and be real rednecks! Say what ya really wanna say:
Thousands of Haitians crossing the border into Quebec? They're all black and speak French. Here's an extra $20 to keep them there!
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Posts: 33691
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:25 pm
Robair Robair: Brah, Coach, Charles... ...anybody else on this thread with a similar mindset:
Kindly explain to me what you think the difference is between an immigrant and a refugee. Why are you asking, these are neither. They are law breaking criminal economic migrants, just out for a bit of country shopping.
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Posts: 9445
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:28 pm
Robair Robair: Brah, Coach, Charles... ...anybody else on this thread with a similar mindset:
Kindly explain to me what you think the difference is between an immigrant and a refugee. What part of it's not fair to immigrants who do everything required the legal way to become Canadian citizens wasn't clear. Fuck these border jumpers send them back and if they're deported that's a shame and if they still want to become Canadian citizens they're more than welcome to do it the right legal way.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:37 pm
Until Trudeau acts on border crisis, Canada is basically one giant sanctuary city$1: What’ll it take for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to unequivocally state that it’s against the law to illegally enter Canada and that he flat out doesn’t want anyone doing it?
That’s what needs to be done to stem the flood of illegal migrants crossing into Canada daily from the United States. It’s his problem. He started it. He’s uniquely positioned to solve it.
It’s an odd notion, that the sentiments and sayings of a political leader alone are enough to shift an issue. It should be more difficult, more complex. And in some respects it is. But it’s a fact that Trudeau’s hashtag virtue-signalling bears a huge amount of responsibility for the illegal crossings happening at the Quebec border right now.
Back in January he issued his famous #WelcometoCanada tweet that ambiguously implied everyone was welcome to come on in. “Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada took to social media to restate the country’s open-door policy,” none other than The New York Times parlayed to readers around the world in the first sentence of a major story.
This misleading sentiment continued to be spread throughout migrant circles in the intervening months, bringing us to the current boiling point. “Migrants are being misled about Canada’s immigration policy,” a recent CTV News headline blares. “False information sends asylum-seeking Haitians to Canada,” says The Globe & Mail.
Disturbingly, we’ve heard little from the actual government when it comes to correcting the record. And it’s not like they’ve been shy in the past at correcting faulty information making its way onto the public record.
In January, the prime minister’s office went out of its way to ask for a correction from Fox News Channel for one of their tweets that incorrectly identified the background of the suspect in the Quebec mosque shooting. But the PMO never wrote to The New York Times and other outlets to clarify the “open-door policy” error, which has more damaging repercussions.
The bureaucrats are clearly trying. The immigration and refugee department made a Facebook post over the weekend correcting messages circulating through WhatsApp and other online channels that claims the government is encouraging people to come here.
“In fact, the Government of Canada discourages people from entering Canada outside of designated ports of entry as it can be dangerous and is a violation of the law,” the post reads.
It’s been shared a measly 124 times. And immigration minister Ahmed Hussen, who's been near silent on the most pressing issue of his portfolio, did tweet out the link without any added comment.
But do you know whose tweet would garner way more than 124 shares? Justin Trudeau’s. He’s the brand. He’s the megaphone. He’s got the power to set the world straight.
Why doesn’t he do it? What’s the hold up?
Migrants have told reporters they’re making the trek because they’ve been told Trudeau is welcoming them. The truth though, when it comes to this latest crop of arrivals originally from Haiti, is that there’s a good chance they’re just going to be sent back once their claims are processed. Why is Trudeau letting them enter under false pretenses largely of his own creation?
Sure, the Liberals campaigned on being open and progressive. Canadians took them up on that. But nobody, save for a handful of fringe activists, actually wants them to support open borders and sanctuary cities? Right? Please, tell me I’m right. Because, if not, we’ve got much bigger problems afoot.
Although right now it doesn’t matter, because until Trudeau acts, Canada is already one giant sanctuary city.
Do we have any more Olympic Stadiums lying around? Because the first one’s filling up fast http://www.torontosun.com/2017/08/08/un ... tuary-city
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