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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:47 pm
 


Title: Opinion: Why I�m standing up to the Southern Poverty Law Center
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Date: 2017-10-03 00:04:49


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:47 pm
 


Debunked here: https://www.universalpetmeds.ca


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:40 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:


I worry that some day you're going to get a clue, Beave.

How will you ever deal with the blathering stupidity of the you that is you?


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:09 pm
 


Incidentally the US Department of Defense is the latest organization to dump the SPLC into the 'no longer credibLe' dung pile.

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The Pentagon’s decision to terminate its relationship with the SPLC comes at a time when the group has under major fire from conservative organizations, particularly in the form of lawsuits. D. James Kennedy Ministries, a Christian ministry from Fort Lauderdale, Fla., recently sued the SPLC after being labeled a hate group. The SPLC has also faced criticism from liberals. In late August, anti-Muslim extremism activist and feminist Ayaan Hirsi Ali argued in The New York Times that “the S.P.L.C. is an organization that has lost its way, smearing people who are fighting for liberty and turning a blind eye to an ideology and political movement that has much in common with Nazism.”

For Ali, corporations and donors in Hollywood “need to find more trustworthy and deserving partners to work with than the SPLC.”

Notably, the Pentagon is not the only federal agency to drop the SPLC.

In February, The Daily Caller News Foundation published an exclusive piece indicating that the FBI, which formerly used the SPLC as a “hate crimes resource,” has also been distancing itself from the group.


http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/exclu ... materials/


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:15 pm
 


Here's the original post from Fox News

Enough with the hate labels. Why I’m standing up to the Southern Poverty Law Center

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/09/ ... there.html

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Nazi. Fascist. Misogynist. White supremacist. These are some of the most hateful terms around, and yet they are freely lobbed at anyone who even slightly diverges from the left’s worldview. This fall, I became the one targeted by exactly this sort of bullying at the hands of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

It’s an understatement to say that I was dumbfounded as to how I ended up on the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) LGBTQ hate-list — I have never said or done anything to indicate hate for the LGBTQ community. When I called to inquire, SPLC informed me that I am guilty because I did a radio interview with Family Research Council Radio (FRC). I am a program coordinator for The Leadership Institute's Campus Reform. org. The segment was about socialism, but because FRC holds traditional family values, I was labeled an LGBT-hater just for being a guest on the show. No LGBT topics even came-up.

SPLC’s hate-list exemplifies a bullying tactic employed by the left to silence conservative ideas. Regardless of the issue, support for the conservative point of view results in a litany of hateful labels and reputation-smearing. The goal is to paint any opposition to the far left as morally depraved and, therefore, unworthy of being included in conversation. Dr. Carol Swain, an African-American woman and former Vanderbilt professor, is a perfect case-in-point; she was labeled a white supremacist sympathizer by the SPLC for pointing-out SPLC’s hypocrisy on racial issues.


This tactic is more than illogical; it’s dangerous. Reckless and irresponsible hate-labeling not only stifles free speech and expression, it empowers and emboldens vicious groups and individuals to violently attack people. Consider the 2012 Family Research Council shooting, when a man walked into the organization’s office in Washington, D.C., with 100 rounds of ammunition and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches. He planned to kill as many staff members as possible and smear the sandwiches in their faces. He said he chose his target based on SPLC’s Hate Map.

Nowhere is the danger more real than on our college campuses where Antifa, By Any Means Necessary, and other domestic terror groups (which are not found on any SPLC hate list) now feel emboldened to attack conservative students and shut down events under the guise of — ironically — fighting fascism, hate and white supremacism. Two Berkeley students recently spoke to Martha MacCallum about being targeted, stalked and physically assaulted by Antifa for being members of the College Republicans club.

This bullying needs to stop if we want to protect a free society — on and off campus. Americans are afraid to voice any form of dissent from the social or economic progressive agenda for fear of losing their academic standings, their jobs, or being labeled hateful and bigoted.

While I am lucky to have a current employer that is understanding of this injustice, many others are not willing to give the benefit of doubt. I will now have to explain to every future employer why my name is on a hate list. If there’s one thing I gained from this, it’s a newfound respect for conservative students who face this type of mistreatment every day on campus.

Groups like the SPLC threaten our constitutional rights and the very fabric that makes this nation great. We need to start pushing back. If this trend of bullying and ostracizing anyone with a different opinion continues, we can only expect a chilling, mob-rule effect and the suppression of speech and ideas in this country.

I am calling on SPLC to remove me from this list and stop engaging in the game of identity fear politics. I urge all Americans who have been bullied, silenced, and pushed into a corner by radical groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center to push back too.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:45 pm
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:


The link went to a PET MEDS advertisement. [huh]


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:53 am
 


BeaverFever BeaverFever:


An ad for pet medicine 'debunks' what Fiddy posted? :roll:


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:48 am
 


Sorry guys wrong link! Must have clicked on an ad.

Anyway, it’s debunked here:

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....Scherlacher’s claims are entirely untrue, as she has not been been placed on the SPLC’s list of anti-LGBT hate groups but was merely once mentioned in passing in one of its “Anti-LGBT Roundup of Events and Activities” posts.

The SPLC has designated the Family Research Council as an anti-LGBT hate group and as part of its coverage of FRC’s work, the SPLC simply noted who had appeared on FRC’s radio program in previous weeks (emphasis added):

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FRC Radio Roundup:

FRC president Tony Perkins hosts a daily radio show, “Washington Watch.” Guests July 13 through July 31 included Rep. Tim Walberg (R-MI); Sen. John Barrasso (R-WY); Faith Church of Budapest’s Michael Patkai; Katalin Novak (Minister of State for Family, Youth and International Affairs, Hungary); Rep. Ted Poe (R-TX); Terry Jeffrey (editor, CNS News); Jerry Johnson (president, National Religious Broadcasters) guest hosted July 18; Ralph Reed; Jack Graham (pastor of Prestonwood Baptist Church in Plano, Texas, one of the evangelicals who prayed over President Trump in the Oval Office the week before); Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL); Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH; twice); Rep. Scott Perry (R-PA); Ken Blackwell; Lt. Gov. of Texas Dan Patrick; Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX); Jonathan Saenz (president, anti-LGBT group Texas Values); Ron Crews (director of Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty); Frank Wright (CEO, D. James Kennedy Ministries); Rep. Andy Harris (R-MD; twice); Carrie Severino (general counsel and policy director, Judicial Crisis Network); Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO); Hannah Sherlacher, Campus Reform program coordinator;Rep. Steve Russell (R-OK); Adm. Dean Lee; Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN); Kansas governor Sam Brownback; Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ); Eben Fowler (director of Bott Radio Network); former congresswoman Nan Hayworth (R-NY); MO state senator Bob Onder; Virginia state delegate Bob Marshall; Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA); guest host Ronnie Floyd (pastor, Cross Church, Springdale AR); Rep. Steve Womack (R-AZ); Kevin Theriot (senior counsel, Alliance Defending Freedom*); Richard Land (president of Southern Evangelical Seminary).


What’s more, at the very top of the post, the SPLC noted that the people, like Scherlacher, who were mentioned in the post but not designated with an asterisk were not themselves on their list of anti-LGBT hate groups.

That one listing is the only mention of Scherlacher on the SPLC’s website, rendering her complaint that she was unjustifiably placed on “the Southern Poverty Law Center’s (SPLC) LGBTQ hate-list” and “labeled an LGBT-hater” laughably untrue.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/hann ... aring-her/



It seems she’s not as important as she thinks she is, it’s just right-wing virtue signaling and culture war clickbait


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:24 am
 


Seeing as Alt-lefters like to throw around the word "Debunk" as if they know what it means, let me try that.

Interestingly enough I saw his 'debunking' organization "debunked" just last night. (Thanks for screwing up and giving me time to see it, Beave. :wink: )



So, Right Wing Watch is this recent, little group of nobody's, few have heard of who are beginning to get a reputation amongst their victims (and even those only know about right wing watch, because somebody tipped them off) for twisting facts or outright lying.

See how easy that is once you remove the restrictions from the word "debunk" Beave. :P

And I saw nothing from your little group of alt-left liars that "Debunked" this:

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“When I called to inquire, SPLC informed me that I am guilty because I did a radio interview with Family Research Council Radio. … The segment was about socialism, but because FRC holds traditional family values, I was labeled an LGBT-hater just for being a guest on the show. No LGBT topics even came-up.”


http://dailysignal.com/2017/10/08/the-s ... -labeling/

This below is what the claim is as others on the internet see it:

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Target of the SPLC

On August 2nd, Hannah's name was published on a list by the Southern Poverty Law Center​ as working with an "Anti-LGBT organization
," FRC Radio Roundup.[15]​ This motivated Hannah to write an op-ed for Fox News condemning the SPLC's tactics as a way to silence conservative voices.[8]​ She calls on the SPLC to remove the list and to stop engaging in "fearful identity politics."


https://everipedia.org/wiki/hannah-scherlacher/

Neither of those claims have been "Debunked" by your little band of alt-losers or anybody else.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:35 am
 


And yet despite her unverifiable “claims” and those of some random YouTube crackpot, the only FACTS are that SPLC barely mentioned her and has never said anything about her directly.

The FACT is her name appeared on a long weekly list of names of people who appeared on radio show. That’s it. That’s all. Someone is just trying to keep her 15 minutes of fame alive.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:37 am
 


From the ever-developing Fiddledog: Prog to English dictionary.

Debunk (n): Somebody on the Left said something derogatory about somebody on the Right.


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N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
From the ever-developing Fiddledog: Prog to English dictionary.

Debunk (n): Somebody on the Left exposing lies told by somebody on the Right.


FTFY

By the way, you can read SPLC,s anti-LGBTQ “hate list” here and clearly she is not on it.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate ... /anti-lgbt

Ergo, once again you are DEBUNKED


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:47 am
 


But when you say:

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some random YouTube crackpot


you miss the point, Beave. "some random YouTube crackpot" is what right wing watch is. Actually it's a few of them. Which group of crackpots is actually valid then? Who knows? In fact, who cares?

The fact remains no actual "Debunking" has happened here. So Hannah said what Hannah said and the others said what they said. Take it or leave it. Your choice, but you have no superior validity. Stop being comical and claiming you do.

And I'm not going to click your link, because I'm pretty sure I already saw it. So as my crackpots said to your crackpots.

Hannah's name was published on a list by the Southern Poverty Law Center​ as working with an "Anti-LGBT organization

And no, that has not been "Debunked". It has only served to show again you don't understand the meaning of the word "Debunk" as the rest of the world not in the regressive side of the left does.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:53 am
 


Beaver, when the US Department of Defense renounces the SPLC because their information is no longer credible then their claims of 'debunking' things are then questionable.

Meaning that if you want to actually disprove a claim against the SPLC then the SPLC is not going to be an authoritative source for doing so.

Not to say that you're necessarily wrong, just saying that you need an independent source to back up your position if only for your own intellectual integrity.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:54 am
 


I'll tell you what, Beave. Your bill is mounting up, but I'm going to give you another little tutorial hint.

When you say "Debunk," what you mean (or should mean) is rebut. The claim of superior proof can be insinuated but it allows for the possibility of a counter.


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