[MindsEye]

Canada has NEVER lost a war.

Look it up!!

Google "Canadian Forces Kick Ass 24/7 Bitches!!!"

No really, look it up and let me know what happens!!

[Bacardi4206]

MindsEye MindsEye:

WOW!! Well, let's see. I have 2 friends that have done time in Afghanistan and they still tell me how they wipe their asses with rocks.
Why bring them home?

Because dying in a sand filled shithole surrounded by people that don't give a shit about you is NO way to die.

I support your choice to give your life for what you believe in as long as you support my choice to make sure you never have to make that decision.

What? I wouldn't support you on that, when people join the Military. They know what they are there for. Which is to fight, and sometimes die.

Dieing in a sand filled shithole? Theres lots of sand, yes but dieing there would be no different then getting shot back home. When you are dieing, where you are dieing does not matter. Only thing somebody would want is to die peacefully in there beds surounded by people they know. Otherwise if that don't happen, where they die doesn't make a difference because there going to be dead.

I agree that most of them don't seem to care about us, and that there... not very civilized but either way they are still human beings and deserve a more stable country. Of all the things Canada does in the world, we promote peace and we help others. Why is this different? We are trying to help Afghanistan, why is that any different this time? Because some are shooting at us? Remember, if they all hated us. Wouldn't they all be picking up guns and trying to kill us? Insurgents have to bribe the poor to join them. If they were all so determined to kill us, which some are and not all. They wouldn't be spending a dime on recruitment. They would just say, heres your AK-47 now go kill some NATO soldiers for your religion and country.

There religion kind of messes up any chances of us have any real impact on there progress. As there religion is basicly to hate us because we are either Athiests or of a different religion. But atleast they can police there own country, and stop the spread of future insurgents and terrorists. Well not completly stop them, but stop from them spreading much. I do however believe Afghanistan can be friendly if it wanted. I mean look at Pakistan, and other more civilized Islamic Nations. A lot do trades with us, and some take vacations there. Like in Pakistan.

I say, as long as the soldiers want to serve there (Which they apparently do since Recruitment numbers have been at a all time high). Then let them serve there, it's unfair for us to call them off if they don't want to be called off. Expecially when we are making progress.

[Benoit]

MindsEye MindsEye:

Canada has NEVER lost a war.

Look it up!!

Google "Canadian Forces Kick Ass 24/7 Bitches!!!"

No really, look it up and let me know what happens!!

Our flag is not all white.

[MindsEye]

Bacardi.....fuck all the politics!

Just make sure that when you are finished your tour, you can come HOME and tell me that I am an opinionated douchebag!!

At least then, I will know that you made it home.

Don't think that I don't salute what you do because I do!!

[Benoit]

Not be willing to consider lowering the flag because it is a tradition not to is akin to dogmatism.

[MindsEye]

Benoit, do you like to rub your funk on the word 'akin' ?
You tend to use it in your posts.

[Joe_Stalin]

The way I figure it lowering the flag for the Liberals and NDP is nothing about respect for the fallen troops but rather a way to advertise the loss to the nation. IMHO if they could ring Big Ben's chimes as well they would do it.

See my fellow Canadians... another dead soldier in Harper's war.
Retreat, bring the troops home.

[MindsEye]

This isn't a political debate really.
Sure, the elected idiots of the day can debate all they want but to say that they have made some grand decision of the day is ludicrous.

Our troops will always be 'away' for some reason but I only hope it is because they are holding back an imminent terror.

[RUEZ]

Benoit Benoit:

bootlegga bootlegga:

if we ever get into a regular conventional war, then it will be at half-mast forever.

If Canada loses a war on its territory, there will be no more Maple leaf flag.

Do you smoke a lot of pot when you post?

[Bacardi4206]

MindsEye MindsEye:

Bacardi.....fuck all the politics!

Just make sure that when you are finished your tour, you can come HOME and tell me that I am an opinionated douchebag!!

At least then, I will know that you made it home.

Don't think that I don't salute what you do because I do!!

Yeah I know what you are doing, and I appreciate it and support it. I am just saying that the troops want to be there, so let them be there. In the process we help stabalize a country and not let those who have currently died there be a waste of effort.

[MindsEye]

Two of my friends have gone and returned. I am one of those friends that experienced random chance! Every one of our boys that died fruitlessly to 'free' Afghanistan does NOT WANT to be there. How could they?
Leaving their families on Christmas to spend weeks 'liberating' that country from their shitholeness is just not possible.

Let's just say that we agree to disagree, Bacardi and in our FREE Canadian style that is all we really hope to accomplish.
When you are under attack, just make sure you think to yourself, "That prick, MindsEye told me about this!! I'm gonna make it back so I can call him a fucking douche monkey!! That fucking asshole!!"

If you can do THAT for me, well, I will salute you!!
And I will buy you a beer!!
No matter where you live in Canada!!
Take note of that!!

[Scape]

bootlegga bootlegga:

I think in this day and age I think it's fine, but if we ever get into a regular conventional war, then it will be at half-mast forever.

They could have made that stipulation but failed to.

[Wullu]

This is a fucking abomination and an insult to every Canadian that gave their lives in South Africa, two world wars, Korea and a hundered different peacekeeping missions.

We already lower the Colours on the Peace Tower for them. Every 11th of Novemeber.

Typical fucking slimy politicians. Making something political out of something sacred.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

You'll have to prove that to me.
We Conservatives are pretty strong believers in tradition and there are gobs of flag traditions.

You want proof?

You obviously have a short memory considering you were part of the discussion.

http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... e&p=291560

bootlegga bootlegga:

ziggy ziggy:

So now the left and the CBC want to make this a political thing.
Sad How come no one had a problem with this untill now?

It was the Cons who started this fuss, not the Libs or the left. It was a Con MP who suggested lowering the flag when Lt. Chris Saunders died as a result of the Chicoutimi fire in 2004, not the Libs or the left.

Lowering the Flag

$1:

However, back in October 2004, after submariner Lieutenant Chris Saunders died in a fire on HMCS Chicoutimi, it was actually a Conservative MP -- James Moore -- who put forward a motion calling for flags on all government buildings to be flown at half-mast.

The motion was passed unanimously and up to now, has been policy ever since.

Funny, when it furthers the Con's political agenda, it's okay, but it's not okay for the Libs? Bit of a double standard here...

As for the media black-out, I see no reason why the media needs to be there. If those vultures want to talk to the families, I'm sure they can ambush them at home or when they go shopping...

This is just another double-standard and political ploy by the CPC to trick the military into thinking they give a damn about them.

[ridenrain]

What.. no one reads my posts?
My next post shows the rules and the exceptions that the Harper government made to those rules.
All you're "see you're wrong" has been wasted because I already corrected myself... bitches

I don't like it and they shouldn't have done that.
Whoever approved such a dumb move should be forced to take in some week long training sessions down at the legion.