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 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:44 am 

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Lemmee get this straight...a site full of working scientists is no good, but a right wing rag that is not only open but proud of its extreme political bias should be trusted. So basically National Post bad. RealClimate.org good. Right? Now me I'll read both. I'll trust my judgment to decide if the ...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:32 pm 

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The solar cycles you are talking about are the Milankovitch cycles. According to those we should have been cooling since at least the 1970s, possibly much earlier, not seeing the rise in temperatures we are seeing. No, those aren't the cycles I'm talking about, and if you ever ventured away from th...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:12 am 

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I can't remember if I gave you link before or not. You should keep in mind the short term graphs you provided while reading it. Link to article at Real Climate.org So here's the thing Rev. You say to me, "show me something recent". I do. I show you how temperatures moved towards a flatten...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:25 pm 

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I'm sorry, you cited Soon and Balinunas. As I said, they've been discredited.[/quote] As has Michael Mann. As has the NAS when they stacked their panel with Mann's buddies. Do you see what happens when you play the "your guys are poopheads" card. What you say about one I can say about ano...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:53 am 

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Soon and Baliunas have been discredited. Their work failed peer review and are widely considered to have manipulated data on purpose. Both took funding from the oil companies and lied about it. von Storch supports global warming theory, he just didn't like Mann's graph. It doesn't matter where the ...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:21 pm 

Replies: 255
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It's not that simple, and a lot of that is nonsense. It's not nonsense at all. The hockey stick is backed up by data from several other disciplines. McIntyre and McItrick did originally publish in a mining magazine. When their work was peer reviewed by statisticians, several glaring errors were fou...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:21 pm 

Replies: 255
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Mann did reveal his methods, by the way. He was late doing so because of a conflict with his co-authors, but claims that he was purposely hiding his methodology are unsupported conspiracy theories. Sorry, but once again, you're wrong. One point of contention relates to McIntyre's requests for Mann ...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:04 pm 

Replies: 255
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OK, this is going to take a few posts. There's a lot of misinformation to sift through. Let's start here... ]It's not nonsense at all. The hockey stick is backed up by data from several other disciplines. McIntyre and McItrick did originally publish in a mining magazine. I guess that's kind of true ...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:48 pm 

Replies: 255
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Well then, you are mistranslating. Those are mainstream media sources, not some vague, hard to find site. I'm not sure why'd you'd even be concerned about it. It doesn't change the fact of global warming. Anyway, since they don't seem to have Google where you live, here's some links that make refer...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:26 pm 

Replies: 255
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I haven't caught up with this thread yet. I'm still on page 2, or something. Has a link been posted to support that. I'm having a real hard time accepting the black and white simplicity of that. That's a nice way of saying I don't believe you. I could be wrong of course. Give me the link, and I'll ...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:05 pm 

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Climate change became so pervasive in use that many organisations began using it. Basically the denial industry made it the more common term, so others began using it as well, inorder to avoid confusion. I haven't caught up with this thread yet. I'm still on page 2, or something. Has a link been po...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:55 pm 

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McItrick and McIntyre failed to pass their own peer review. They originally published in a mining magazine to avoid serious scrutiny. They were later found to have manipulated and misrepresented data and to have little or no understanding of statistical methodology. When the case made it to the Nat...

 Forum: Editorial Discussions   Topic: Suzuki 1 Harper 0

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:07 pm 

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Global Warming may, in the end, trigger the next Ice Age, if it successfully shuts down the Atlantic conveyor belt of warm water that comes up from the equator and keeps Europe warm, for example. Greenland is happily melting it's arse off attempting to do just that. IF that happens, the U.K. and mu...

 Forum: Current Events   Topic: North American Army created without OK by Congress

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:48 pm 

Replies: 15
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It's kind of fun to play what if. Like what if the fault line that runs through the Vancouver, Victoriaish, area gives way, and there's a massive event. What happens? Or what happens if a series of bombs goes off during the 2010 Olympics? Do the American armed forces start streaming over the border?...

 Forum: Science & Technology   Topic: Why 'Global Warming' is Not a Global Crisis

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:56 pm 

Replies: 187
Views: 3444


I find it worth a smile that the guy who's rarely coherent is the guy complaining about language usage.
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