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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:20 am
 


Robair Robair:
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php

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2014 dog bite fatality statistics
42 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2014. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 64% (27) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls and rottweilers, the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 74% of the total recorded deaths in 2014. This same combination also accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 10-year period of 2005 to 2014...



This is the dirty statistic the pit bull crowd doesn't want you to know about. They mention dog bites, but not which breeds kill, and if they don't kill leave their victims with life long injuries. Tell it to a little girl who has her face ripped off that she's more likely to be bitten by a beagle.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:24 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
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A 'dog' is an 'animal' that people have been keeping as 'pets' for tens of thousands of 'years'.


All those words and pics to state something that isn't news to anybody?


Many people think that pitbulls are ferocious beasts only bred to fight in cruel contests. I imagine its news to somebody.


Any dog can be vicious if it's raised that way, even my dog a Bordercollie.


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andyt andyt:
Robair Robair:
http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php

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2014 dog bite fatality statistics
42 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2014. Despite being regulated in Military Housing areas and over 700 U.S. cities, pit bulls contributed to 64% (27) of these deaths. Pit bulls make up about 6% of the total U.S. dog population.2
Together, pit bulls and rottweilers, the second most lethal dog breed, accounted for 74% of the total recorded deaths in 2014. This same combination also accounted for 74% of all fatal attacks during the 10-year period of 2005 to 2014...


This is the dirty statistic the pit bull crowd doesn't want you to know about. They mention dog bites, but not which breeds kill, and if they don't kill leave their victims with life long injuries. Tell it to a little girl who has her face ripped off that she's more likely to be bitten by a beagle.


That's also a dirty little tactic that you are so fond of pointing out in others. I didn't say anything about fatalities. I'm well aware the pitbull is over represented in fatalities, for the same reason German Shepherds are the leading cause of non-fatal bites. They are popular. Before Pitbulls, Rottweiler bites were the leading cause of fatalities in children. There was even a horror movie made about Rotties, and St. Bernard's for that matter. Not so many about Chihuahuas.

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Dogs predominantly of chihuahua, golden retriever, labrador retriever, poodle, Scottish terrier, and Shetland sheepdog breeds were more common among nonbiting than among the biting dogs. None of the cases and only one control dog was a pit bull terrier.

Dogs predominantly of German shepherd, chow chow, collie and akita breeds were substantially more frequent among biting than nonbiting dogs. The total numbers of dogs mainly collie (n=9) and akita (n=5) breeds were small compared to the total numbers of German shepherd (n=47) and chow chows (n=40).

Biting dogs were significantly more likely to reside in homes with one or more children, ages 10 years and younger, and to be chained while in the yard. Of the 83 chained dogs, 44 (53%) had growled or snapped at visitors to the house. This same behavior, however, was reported in unchained dogs 44% of the time.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:47 am
 


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Any dog can be vicious if it's raised that way, even my dog a Bordercollie.


Exactly. And the point I'm trying to make is; just because it's a 'pit bull', and just because its a reformed fighting dog, doesn't mean it will be viscous.

It's all about the love, training and care you give it.


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By talking about bites but not fatalities you are avoiding just why pit bulls (and Rotties) are not like other dogs. Fatalities (and severe maulings) are the statistic that matters, and why people are down on pitt bulls. You can post all the pics you want of pitts making their beds or snuggling with their owners, but it's just as possible to post horrific pics of people who have been attacked by pitt bulls. They are more dangerous than other dogs, and should be treated as such.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:56 am
 


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By talking about bites but not fatalities you are avoiding just why pit bulls (and Rotties) are not like other dogs. Fatalities (and severe maulings) are the statistic that matters, and why people are down on pitt bulls. You can post all the pics you want of pitts making their beds or snuggling with their owners, but it's just as possible to post horrific pics of people who have been attacked by pitt bulls. They are more dangerous than other dogs, and should be treated as such.


By ignoring the larger population of pitbulls (Shepherds, Akitas, Cane Corsos . . .) that play everyday with children and who never ever hurt people or other dogs, you are casting fear on a breed that is already misunderstood.

An animal is still an animal, no matter what kind it is. No doubt that a pit bull can be a dangerous animal, but so can a python.


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No shit. Now that is a non sequitur that's not worthy of you. I mean at least bring up how cats can smother babies or something.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:02 am
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
Firstly, there is no such breed as 'Pit Bull'.


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
you are casting fear on a breed that is already misunderstood.




[huh]

The breed certainly doesn't need the Mr cuddles treatment. There is reason to fear them, and people should be cautious around them. And the people who feel the need to own them or defend them. Starting to sound a lot like the gun rights argument.

"Guns don't kill people, people do." = "It's not the breed it's the owner."

"I need a semi-automatic rifle based on a military weapon" (insert bullshit reason here) = "I need to own a dog bred for barbaric practices" (insert bullshit reason here).


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:20 am
 


Ban them, exterminate them, shove your pit-bull/rottie up your ass.

They have no place in my neighborhood, in my town, in my community.

This is my opinion, you will not change it. Don't waste your breath.

There is nothing in place to regulate owners, no preventative measures. The only effect current laws have is dealing with a problem animal/owner AFTER somebody is killed. Not good enough for me.

All breeds have a temperament. This "every breed is dangerous" line is bullshit. If you disagree, research dog temperament. If you still disagree, research it some more.

I have no problem putting any such law to a vote. Pretty sure my opinion is the more popular one.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:23 am
 


andyt andyt:
No shit. Now that is a non sequitur that's not worthy of you. I mean at least bring up how cats can smother babies or something.


Pet Pythons actually have killed children. It's not a non sequitur.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:37 pm
 


I grew up with a Bull Mastiff, one of the most gentle dogs Iv'e ever known, yes I know it's not a Pit bull.

Agree with Doc here, it's some of the redneck owners who cause any dog to be vicious.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:05 pm
 


Not just rednecks. The worst of the abuse of these dogs occurs in the ghettos at the hands of gangsters and scum like Michael Vick.


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I grew up with a Bull Mastiff, one of the most gentle dogs Iv'e ever known, yes I know it's not a Pit bull.

Agree with Doc here, it's some of the redneck owners who cause any dog to be vicious.


The Mastiff was bred to knock a threat (intruder etc) down with it's massive head then hold them there.

Bull Mastiff is probably the ideal breed for home/family protection.

Whatever your interest in a pet dog is, there is a breed that fits as far as temperament and abilities/instincts.

I would agree that pit-bulls are a misunderstood breed.

Misunderstood by anybody who wants one as a fucking house pet. There are all kinds of breeds suited to this that pose a significantly lower threat.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:51 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
andyt andyt:
No shit. Now that is a non sequitur that's not worthy of you. I mean at least bring up how cats can smother babies or something.


Pet Pythons actually have killed children. It's not a non sequitur.


Who argued for owning pythons?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:59 am
 


andyt andyt:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
andyt andyt:
No shit. Now that is a non sequitur that's not worthy of you. I mean at least bring up how cats can smother babies or something.


Pet Pythons actually have killed children. It's not a non sequitur.


Who argued for owning pythons?


You called it a non-sequitur. Can you not scroll up and read what you wrote?


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