[ShepherdsDog]

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Asked if Canada is better served when there are more Quebecers in power than when there are more Albertans in power, Mr. Trudeau replied: “I’m a Liberal so of course I believe that.”

He went on to add: “certainly when we look at the great prime ministers of the 20th century, those that really stood the test of time, they were MPs from Quebec. … This country — Canada — it belongs to us.”

So much for party renewal. Both examples are as retrograde Liberal as you can get.

Mr. Trudeau’s interview was given to Patrick Lagace, host of Les francs-tireurs (The Straight Shooters). And shoot Mr. Trudeau does … right at Alberta. He magnanimously lists Brian Mulroney, a Progressive Conservative, as a successful prime minister, but his other examples of good Quebec leaders — his father, Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin — aren’t just Quebecers, they’re Liberals.

And according to Mr. Trudeau, Canada belongs to them.

It doesn't really matter if he was referring to Quebecers or Liberals. The comment reeks of arrogance either way.

Thanks for alienating the rest of Canada .....Putz. If the Liberals want to become relevant again...it won't be under his leadershit

[Caelon]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

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Asked if Canada is better served when there are more Quebecers in power than when there are more Albertans in power, Mr. Trudeau replied: “I’m a Liberal so of course I believe that.”

He went on to add: “certainly when we look at the great prime ministers of the 20th century, those that really stood the test of time, they were MPs from Quebec. … This country — Canada — it belongs to us.”

So much for party renewal. Both examples are as retrograde Liberal as you can get.

Mr. Trudeau’s interview was given to Patrick Lagace, host of Les francs-tireurs (The Straight Shooters). And shoot Mr. Trudeau does … right at Alberta. He magnanimously lists Brian Mulroney, a Progressive Conservative, as a successful prime minister, but his other examples of good Quebec leaders — his father, Jean Chrétien and Paul Martin — aren’t just Quebecers, they’re Liberals.

And according to Mr. Trudeau, Canada belongs to them.

It doesn't really matter if he was referring to Quebecers or Liberals. The comment reeks of arrogance either way.

Thanks for alienating the rest of Canada .....Putz. If the Liberals want to become relevant again...it won't be under his leadershit

It was part of a long interview with the Quebec media while he was seeking more support in Quebec. A lot of politicians have made bad judgement calls on what to say under similar circumstances. I can understand a bit of Quebec chest thumping, but it was not a short response and has crossed the line by more than a toe's width. This will haunt him for awhile.

It will also make sure all his english and french speaches will be scrutinized closely for variances in what is said in different regions. An unequivocal apology might help him rub some of the tarnish off. Then again welcome to the limelight where everything is viewed with a microscope.

[EyeBrock]

I think you are right Caleon. The Anglo media and the ROC have eventually twigged to the fact that our federal politicians have been saying one thing to a Quebec audience in French and a differing version to the Anglo and new Canadian masses in English.

I wish Trudeau well and I hope we see a resurgent Liberal party that has mass appeal in the future. I just think they have a few more years in the wilderness to go before they gain power again.

[Jonny_C]

Just on the basis of the National Post article and the video clip (which contain things I hadn't heard before), Trudeau (for me) goes from being interesting to being marginal.

"Out of context" bullshit, and the idea that the leopard can change his spots don't hardly fly with me. My suspicion has been aroused, where before it was only curiosity.

[Gunnair]

Jonny_C Jonny_C:

Just on the basis of the National Post article and the video clip (which contain things I hadn't heard before), Trudeau (for me) goes from being interesting to being marginal.

"Out of context" bullshit, and the idea that the leopard can change his spots don't hardly fly with me. My suspicion has been aroused, where before it was only curiosity.

Well, I doubt there are a lot of political leaders that don't have regional biases. Harper certainly does so why not Trudeau?

Harper has managed to keep a lid on his for the most part, however.

I'm still Trudeau curious even if he comes out with some dumb stuff. Kind like when Harper said 2008 was a good time to buy stocks. They all have their moments.

[EyeBrock]

The other thing is that this an interview from 2010. It puts a different slant on it. Looks like the Tories are just looking for dirt. Sure he said it but I dunno, it's smelling a bit suspicious.

[martin14]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The other thing is that this an interview from 2010. It puts a different slant on it. Looks like the Tories are just looking for dirt. Sure he said it but I dunno, it's smelling a bit suspicious.

Oh I'm sure the Tories will have the attack machines going full tilt.

And perhaps deservedly so.



Look, he could have said just from population demographics and developmental history,

of course more Quebecers have been in power... more people, longer history.


In 2010, he is still playing the devisive East vs West game.

I think a lot of Canadians are tired of that shit.

[Bodah]

Unsound Unsound:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/11/22/matt-gurney-this-country-belongs-to-us-justin-trudeau-reminds-canadians-why-the-liberals-were-voted-out/


haven't had a chance to look for the actual context yet, so I'm reserving judgement for a few hours, but this sure does sound bad.

That's pretty gross.

I appreaciate him speaking his mind though, I know where he's really coming from now though Canada should be governed by Quebecers or Liberals because it belongs to them, and even if people disagrees they know what's best for us.

It'll be entertaining within the next few days watching him answering the press on this, expect a full drama production where he talks in the third person the entire time becoming frustrated that the unfriendly press would even dare question him.

[ShepherdsDog]

Canada belonged to real liberals...not what passes for the Liberal Party of Canada today, aka NDP Lite. They're too busy fighting with the NDP and Greens for the left vote, completely alienating the Red Tories and Blue Liberals that made a true centrist party...and the place where the majority of Canadians stand.

[Unsound]

Haven't been able to find the full interview yet, so if anyone else does I'd appreciate a link. Otherwise, i'm finding it a little amusing and suspicious that, so far as i can tell, none of the other major news utlets are saying anything about this yet...

edit: a few other outlets have stories about it now. I especially enjoy the Star's use of "allegedly". Pretty predictable.

[dino_bobba_renno]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The other thing is that this an interview from 2010. It puts a different slant on it. Looks like the Tories are just looking for dirt. Sure he said it but I dunno, it's smelling a bit suspicious.

I’m not sure what you find suspicious about this. You have a politician, a Liberal one at that, basically shilling for votes in Quebec by practicing the time honoured tradition of bashing the West. Nothing new here.

What I think is telling is Justin’s reaction to this whole thing. Rather than coming out and distancing himself from those comments by apologizing or stating in some way that he no longer believes what he said to be true he came out and basically blamed it on the Conservatives. Umm Justin buddy, I hate to tell you this but it’s not like the Conservatives dubbed that pieces and put those words in your mouth.

Justin just re-enforced all of the pre-existing suspicions Westerners had about him and he did it to himself, way to go buddy.

[martin14]

Unsound Unsound:

Haven't been able to find the full interview yet, so if anyone else does I'd appreciate a link. Otherwise, i'm finding it a little amusing and suspicious that, so far as i can tell, none of the other major news utlets are saying anything about this yet...

edit: a few other outlets have stories about it now. I especially enjoy the Star's use of "allegedly". Pretty predictable.

http://lesfrancstireurs.telequebec.tv/r ... .aspx?id=2


scroll down to 24 November 2010... they wont let me watch it.

[Gunnair]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

The other thing is that this an interview from 2010. It puts a different slant on it. Looks like the Tories are just looking for dirt. Sure he said it but I dunno, it's smelling a bit suspicious.

I’m not sure what you find suspicious about this. You have a politician, a Liberal one at that, basically shilling for votes in Quebec by practicing the time honoured tradition of bashing the West. Nothing new here.

What I think is telling is Justin’s reaction to this whole thing. Rather than coming out and distancing himself from those comments by apologizing or stating in some way that he no longer believes what he said to be true he came out and basically blamed it on the Conservatives. Umm Justin buddy, I hate to tell you this but it’s not like the Conservatives dubbed that pieces and put those words in your mouth.

Justin just re-enforced all of the pre-existing suspicions Westerners had about him and he did it to himself, way to go buddy.

.

I think you mean Albertans - not westerners.

Alberta is getting a bit arrogant to think every time it gets pissed off, the west is pissed off.

[Unsound]

Gunnair Gunnair:

I think you mean Albertans - not westerners.

Alberta is getting a bit arrogant to think every time it gets pissed off, the west is pissed off.

I dunno, based on most of the Saskatchewanians and interior BCers that I talk to, they're well aware that to an eastern poitician Alberta=West. We're a bit louder than the rest so we get picked on by name but a Toronto liberal will be just as quick to look down on a some one from Regina or Ft. St. John as they will someone from Medicine Hat or Millet.

I think you coastal types are considered honourary Onatarians with a mild drug problem, so you get a bit of a pass from the eastern bastards.

[jj2424]

So all you non-Albertans are okay with Trudeau saying Quebec should lead Canada?

the province that treats the flag like dirt......lovely just lovely.