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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:12 pm
 


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Its a contrast between urban and rural attitudes and their associated lifestyles.


It's a contrast between pimaraly *Eastern* urban centers and the rest of the country.

Edmonton, Calgary, Regina, Winnipeg are all major urban centers, but they all vote CPC. Whereas the Liberals get support from Toronto, Ottowa and others in that area. The only notable exception is Vancouver.

These are also just the biggest of the urban centers.

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Its why the CPC constantly champions pro-Xtian positions as the bulk of their support comes from that mindset.


This is a preception that has no basis in reality.

Partially I think it's because of the Evangelical influence in *American* politics, but Canada has nothing even remotly like that. The church-going public in Canada is *small*. Last time I heard it was something like 20% attending any kind of service once a *month*, compared to double or triple that for most places in the US.

Paul Martin and Jean Cretien were both church-going catholics, so you can't even lump that whole 20% behind the CPC. The CPC has even done things that would piss christans off. While the 'conservative christians' in the southern US rallied against the use of the HPV vaccine, the CPC put $300 million toward vaccinations.

I'm not a Christian and I voted for the CPC in the last election because they had a good platform. At the present time I'd still vote for them because - although not perfect - they have at least tried to impliment thier platform as much as politics will allow (politics being 'the art of the possible' and such).

If they ever adopted a pro-xtian stance or even a platform that was obviously based in xtanity I would not vote for them because religion has no business being in politics.

I will also speculate that the preception of Canadian conservatives has something to do with the influence of American TV and news. Please be mindful enough to differentiate thier 'conservatives' from our Conservatives.


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whatever...but dion wont win...i'm very confident of that...and my confidence is tough to get


You do understand the difference between opinion and fact right?

Lets break it down going by the recent polls and pick out fact from opinon.

The bloc won't win ........ Fact.
The NDP won't win ........ Fact.

The Libs will win ........... Opinion.
The CPC will win ........... Opinion.

The CPC won't win a majority ........... Fact.
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yes..as it stands the chances of a cpc majority dont look good...now will you liberals win? perhaps if some miracle is forthcoming...i cant see that happening..can you?


Yes I can and considering that support for both parties stands around 32% +/- 2% on any given week so should you.

Think about without the partisanship.

Of course for a better picture we should factor in support on a per province basis but thats more involved when the volatility of Quebec is factored in.

ok if its only a matter of opinion heres mine...the cpc will win another minority govt but with a few more seats


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icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
whatever...but dion wont win...i'm very confident of that...and my confidence is tough to get


You do understand the difference between opinion and fact right?

Lets break it down going by the recent polls and pick out fact from opinon.

The bloc won't win ........ Fact.
The NDP won't win ........ Fact.

The Libs will win ........... Opinion.
The CPC will win ........... Opinion.

The CPC won't win a majority ........... Fact.
\
yes..as it stands the chances of a cpc majority dont look good...now will you liberals win? perhaps if some miracle is forthcoming...i cant see that happening..can you?


Yes I can and considering that support for both parties stands around 32% +/- 2% on any given week so should you.

Think about without the partisanship.

Of course for a better picture we should factor in support on a per province basis but thats more involved when the volatility of Quebec is factored in.

ok if its only a matter of opinion heres mine...the cpc will win another minority govt but with a few more seats


I agree with that, but I think theres a chance that the liberals will run a really shitty campaign, in which case, the CPC might just win a majority.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:37 pm
 


Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
whatever...but dion wont win...i'm very confident of that...and my confidence is tough to get


You do understand the difference between opinion and fact right?

Lets break it down going by the recent polls and pick out fact from opinon.

The bloc won't win ........ Fact.
The NDP won't win ........ Fact.

The Libs will win ........... Opinion.
The CPC will win ........... Opinion.

The CPC won't win a majority ........... Fact.
\
yes..as it stands the chances of a cpc majority dont look good...now will you liberals win? perhaps if some miracle is forthcoming...i cant see that happening..can you?


Yes I can and considering that support for both parties stands around 32% +/- 2% on any given week so should you.

Think about without the partisanship.

Of course for a better picture we should factor in support on a per province basis but thats more involved when the volatility of Quebec is factored in.

ok if its only a matter of opinion heres mine...the cpc will win another minority govt but with a few more seats


I agree with that, but I think theres a chance that the liberals will run a really shitty campaign, in which case, the CPC might just win a majority.

well the only hope the liberals have is if harper makes a serious blunder...dion will be a very difficult sell


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icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
DerbyX DerbyX:
icekarma2752 icekarma2752:
whatever...but dion wont win...i'm very confident of that...and my confidence is tough to get


You do understand the difference between opinion and fact right?

Lets break it down going by the recent polls and pick out fact from opinon.

The bloc won't win ........ Fact.
The NDP won't win ........ Fact.

The Libs will win ........... Opinion.
The CPC will win ........... Opinion.

The CPC won't win a majority ........... Fact.
\
yes..as it stands the chances of a cpc majority dont look good...now will you liberals win? perhaps if some miracle is forthcoming...i cant see that happening..can you?


Yes I can and considering that support for both parties stands around 32% +/- 2% on any given week so should you.

Think about without the partisanship.

Of course for a better picture we should factor in support on a per province basis but thats more involved when the volatility of Quebec is factored in.

ok if its only a matter of opinion heres mine...the cpc will win another minority govt but with a few more seats


I agree with that, but I think theres a chance that the liberals will run a really shitty campaign, in which case, the CPC might just win a majority.

well the only hope the liberals have is if harper makes a serious blunder...dion will be a very difficult sell


if harper and dion both screw up, I'm still voting for harper. .the liberals have swung so far to the left, even a die hard liberal should feel like they are voting for the NDP.


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