[saturn_656]

Tegan Tegan:

Actually a study was done by the US on the consequences and predictions related to Québec separation, quite a while ago during the separatist crisis.

and the US is well known to be "the authority" on all things Canadian.

Can you even produce said "study" or are you pulling that out of your ass?

[RUEZ]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

RUEZ RUEZ:

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

Yes, I have.

That's the state that still sees itself as being Alaskan over American, feels isolated and different from the States, and has a large populace that wouldn't mind being independent, right?

According to who?

Alaskans and the general Media?

You'll have to point out some of your references. I've heard of an Alaskan seperatist movement. Not very popular and not very vocal anymore. I'm curious to know how Alaskans see themselves as Alaskans over Americans.

[Brenda]

Tegan Tegan:

Actually a study was done by the US on the consequences and predictions related to Québec separation, quite a while ago during the separatist crisis. The Maratimes would join the US although Acadian New Brunswick might join Québec, Newfoundland might try to go it alone. The western provinces would also join the US to sell their oil, wheat and other products. Ontario might try to go it alone. The native peoples would separate and lay claim to vast amounts of Northern Québec and Ontario to join with Nunavut. North America would be balkanized.

So, I repeat, Canada would NO longer exist. Read more. It is basic politics and economics.

Kinda depends on the options you give the ones you are interviewing for your study, don't you think?

[Arctic_Menace]

RUEZ RUEZ:

You'll have to point out some of your references. I've heard of an Alaskan seperatist movement. Not very popular and not very vocal anymore. I'm curious to know how Alaskans see themselves as Alaskans over Americans.

I know I got some links buried around here somewhere because they piqued my interest. Looking for them now.

One place that I THINK might have some information is "Alaska Alliance", but I'm not certain of that...

[Acesolid]

Only half of Quebec wants to quit Canada, and I certainly dont want to.

I bet if Quebec would secede (or was kicked out) a lot of Quebecois (including me) would move to Ontario and New-Brunswick.

[Numure]

The issue is pretty much dead. Very few Quebecers want seperation, myself included.

Since the last referendum we've had so much given to us by Canada, why would we want to?

It probably won't change anytime soon. When federal parties make big promises to Quebec, they get votes.

When they cut funding, they loose votes. Look at the conservatives, only reason they don't have a majority is because they cut (Only 30million I think) in cultural funding programs that cause a big uproar in quebec, right before the election.

As long as money keeps getting sent our way, seperation is a dead issue.

[saturn_656]

Numure Numure:

As long as money keeps getting sent our way, seperation is a dead issue.

With that kind of attitude I almost wish Quebec would have left. Only happy as long as the gravy train is flowing your way.

[Pimpbrewski]

Numure Numure:

The issue is pretty much dead. Very few Quebecers want seperation, myself included.

Since the last referendum we've had so much given to us by Canada, why would we want to?

It probably won't change anytime soon. When federal parties make big promises to Quebec, they get votes.

When they cut funding, they loose votes. Look at the conservatives, only reason they don't have a majority is because they cut (Only 30million I think) in cultural funding programs that cause a big uproar in quebec, right before the election.

As long as money keeps getting sent our way, seperation is a dead issue.

Comments like this surely could be considered as an attempt at provocation.

As for the art funding, TVA created that ''vague'' of controversy as they do for anything else. They never considered that some funds could be better spent elsewhere in other sectors. But it's always nice to see some of these spoiled artists, not all of them, get this much support through our media.

Although, I am not complaining at the amount of transfers that Quebec gets. Instead, it is in the way in which it is attained by our ''so called'' politicians, most notably at the Bloc, bitching and whining every chance they get.

[Axeman]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Next Harper government which will likely be a majority, kick out the stops.
Pass a law that requires federal parties to run candidates in all provinces.
I'm sick of these people infecting Canada.

How can they "infect Canada" when they want nothing to do with Canada? I don't understand why people outside Quebec care what Quebeckers do. If they want to separate, that's up to them. If they want to stay, that's up to them. If you don't live in Quebec, it's none of your business.

[Brenda]

Axeman Axeman:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Next Harper government which will likely be a majority, kick out the stops.
Pass a law that requires federal parties to run candidates in all provinces.
I'm sick of these people infecting Canada.

How can they "infect Canada" when they want nothing to do with Canada? I don't understand why people outside Quebec care what Quebeckers do. If they want to separate, that's up to them. If they want to stay, that's up to them. If you don't live in Quebec, it's none of your business.

How can you not want have anything to do with Canada? You pay Canadian taxes, pay into a Canadian pensionplan, collect Canadian chiltax benefits.

OF COURSE we care.

If you don't live in Quebec it is none of your business???
EXf*ckinCUSE ME????

Quebec is part of Canada, not the other way around. Accept it.

[OnTheIce]

Numure Numure:

The issue is pretty much dead. Very few Quebecers want seperation, myself included.

Since the last referendum we've had so much given to us by Canada, why would we want to?

It probably won't change anytime soon. When federal parties make big promises to Quebec, they get votes.

When they cut funding, they loose votes. Look at the conservatives, only reason they don't have a majority is because they cut (Only 30million I think) in cultural funding programs that cause a big uproar in quebec, right before the election.

As long as money keeps getting sent our way, seperation is a dead issue.

It's just too bad Quebecers were too stupid to listen to the rest of the story that funding for cultural programs INCREASED and that certain, ineffective programs, were eliminated.

[Numure]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Comments like this surely could be considered as an attempt at provocation.

I admit they are provocative.

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

As for the art funding, TVA created that ''vague'' of controversy as they do for anything else. They never considered that some funds could be better spent elsewhere in other sectors. But it's always nice to see some of these spoiled artists, not all of them, get this much support through our media.

All the media outlets picked up on it. I only watch RDI and they covered it pretty extensively. When I checked it out myself, they didnt cut anything, just re-organised funding. Image is everything though, and it played horribly bad for the conservatives, for only 30 millions, and right before an election.

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

Although, I am not complaining at the amount of transfers that Quebec gets. Instead, it is in the way in which it is attained by our ''so called'' politicians, most notably at the Bloc, bitching and whining every chance they get.

I'm not complaining either. We get alot more out of Canada then we give. I'm quite satisfied with that, and hope it won't change.


The bloc have done a great job at getting more for Québec. If anything, that justifies there place in Ottawa more then anything else.
Even if they are a seperatist party, we both know thats decided in a referendum and has nothing to do with who we elect.

[Brenda]

$1:

The bloc have done a great job at getting more for Québec.

Explain to me...
WHY exactly are they in this "coalition" to govern CANADA?

[Numure]

Brenda Brenda:

How can you not want have anything to do with Canada? You pay Canadian taxes, pay into a Canadian pensionplan, collect Canadian chiltax benefits.

OF COURSE we care.

If you don't live in Quebec it is none of your business???
EXf*ckinCUSE ME????

Quebec is part of Canada, not the other way around. Accept it.

Québec has its own pension plan and doesnt pay into the CPP.

[Numure]

Brenda Brenda:

$1:

The bloc have done a great job at getting more for Québec.

Explain to me...
WHY exactly are they in this "coalition" to govern CANADA?

They said they would support the Coalition. Not form the governement. Difference of words.

What is good for Québec, doesnt have to be bad for Canada.