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<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=32135" target="_blank">Barbara Kay: Multiculturalism was Canada's biggest mistake</a> (click to view)

<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/1-political" target="_blank">Political</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=ridenrain" target="_blank">ridenrain</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-04-10 12:09:16
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[Bacardi4206]

I would have to agree with this, Multi-culturism really sucks. You cannot please one culture, without not pleasing another.

However,
"Let Mr. Ignatieff visit Quebec City, and he’ll be surrounded by Canadian citizens who consider themselves Quebecers first and Canadians second (if at all). Let him visit any urban centre and he’ll find plenty of Canadian citizens who consider themselves something-else first and Canadians second.
Indeed, thanks to multiculturalism, there’s only one little piece of Canada where Mr. Ignatieff is assured of finding a critical mass of fellow citizens who, in “choosing their belonging,” only chose Canada.

That little piece of Canada is Kandahar, Afghanistan."

Wtf is this? If you go to most Canadian City's or generally most of Canada. You will find people who call them-selves Canadians first. Except in large portions of Toronto where you get a lot of immigration who call themselves (There original country)-Canadian's.

[Tricks]

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

I would have to agree with this, Multi-culturism really sucks. You cannot please one culture, without not pleasing another.

However,
"Let Mr. Ignatieff visit Quebec City, and he’ll be surrounded by Canadian citizens who consider themselves Quebecers first and Canadians second (if at all). Let him visit any urban centre and he’ll find plenty of Canadian citizens who consider themselves something-else first and Canadians second.
Indeed, thanks to multiculturalism, there’s only one little piece of Canada where Mr. Ignatieff is assured of finding a critical mass of fellow citizens who, in “choosing their belonging,” only chose Canada.

That little piece of Canada is Kandahar, Afghanistan."

Wtf is this? If you go to most Canadian City's or generally most of Canada. You will find people who call them-selves Canadians first. Except in large portions of Toronto where you get a lot of immigration who call themselves (There original country)-Canadian's.

Ask someone what they are, or where they are from. Few will say Canada.

[Wada]

The poor dear seems uncomfortable in her own skin. If she matures she may feel different.

[Bacardi4206]

Tricks Tricks:

Bacardi4206 Bacardi4206:

I would have to agree with this, Multi-culturism really sucks. You cannot please one culture, without not pleasing another.

However,
"Let Mr. Ignatieff visit Quebec City, and he’ll be surrounded by Canadian citizens who consider themselves Quebecers first and Canadians second (if at all). Let him visit any urban centre and he’ll find plenty of Canadian citizens who consider themselves something-else first and Canadians second.
Indeed, thanks to multiculturalism, there’s only one little piece of Canada where Mr. Ignatieff is assured of finding a critical mass of fellow citizens who, in “choosing their belonging,” only chose Canada.

That little piece of Canada is Kandahar, Afghanistan."

Wtf is this? If you go to most Canadian City's or generally most of Canada. You will find people who call them-selves Canadians first. Except in large portions of Toronto where you get a lot of immigration who call themselves (There original country)-Canadian's.

Ask someone what they are, or where they are from. Few will say Canada.

Well apparently I am just unlucky with that, because everybody I know and met has always considered them Canadians first, I lived in 3 homes. 1 in markham, then in Scarbrough, then in Markham again. (Actually go between Scar and Mark).

Everybody on the streets I lived in, all considered them Canadian's first which includes immagrants. I got a pakistan family who lives across from me that consider themselves Canadians and not Pakistans. They got family there that they visit, however they realize that they live in Canada, and want to stay in Canada and will continue to do so, so calling themselves Pakistan-Canadians doesn't make sense to them. Expecially for there kids, and there kids who are born Canadian.

I have rarely ever met anybody who considered themselves anything else. I am a quarter French Canadian, Quarter Scotish, and 50% Irish. My Dads family never calls themselves French Canadians unless people ask for the specifics about them, they also don't call themselves Scotish-Canadians. They always consider themselves Canadians first, French-Canadian and Scotish-Canadian is just a title to them to describe there heritage.

My moms family is truely Canadian patriotic, my Grandfather was a 2ndLT in the Canadian Reserves who was one of the few who setup that equipment in the Artic to detect any activity or specificly any missles (Originally from Russia). I got pictures of it.

My Grandma always hangs the Canadian Flag outside her house. I say that, because you rarely see that anymore. Not that people aren't Canadian Patriotic, they express that in different ways. You just don't see Canadian Flags being hanged outsides people's homes very often.

She, and neither did my Grandpa consider themselves Irish-Canadian, they visited Belfast, Ireland a lot to stay in touch with family but they always consider themselves Canadians first.

What people don't realize is that when people say they are French-Canadian, Irish-Canadian, or anything else-Canadian. They are not implying they are not Canadian, or proud to be Canadian or they they aren't actually Canadian first in there hearts. It's just a title that they proudly say to describe there origins, and heritage.

Also when you are in a Airport, if you travel a lot you will probally know what I am talking about. Sometimes you ask where people are from, like if you are coming back from a trip or going to a trip. You come across people that are from the same nation as you a lot. I never came across anybody that answered that question any other way then, "I am from Canada" or "I am Canadian".

[Tricks]

And here at my University, all the people I hang out with when asked where they are from, they will either say their home town, or somewhere in Europe, depending on how they take the question.

[Brenda]

Ask me where I am from, and I say Fruitvale. Ask me about my accent, and I say Holland. I live here, period. Multicult? My ass. You can't live in 2 cultures. You live here, or where you are originaly from, but not both.
I am not Canadian yet (that will take 3 years) so yes, I am Dutch. The day I will have Canadian Citizenship, I lose my Dutch one. So then I will not be Dutch anymore, legaly. Why mention it then?

[Streaker]

The ravings of a rather pathetic old woman.

[martin14]

Brenda Brenda:

Ask me where I am from, and I say Fruitvale. Ask me about my accent, and I say Holland. I live here, period. Multicult? My ass. You can't live in 2 cultures. You live here, or where you are originaly from, but not both.
I am not Canadian yet (that will take 3 years) so yes, I am Dutch. The day I will have Canadian Citizenship, I lose my Dutch one. So then I will not be Dutch anymore, legaly. Why mention it then?

as were my parents, B .. sadly, you may be more the exception rather

than the rule.

[Benoit]

Multiculturalism was Canada's biggest sweepstake.

[Brenda]

martin14 martin14:

Brenda Brenda:

Ask me where I am from, and I say Fruitvale. Ask me about my accent, and I say Holland. I live here, period. Multicult? My ass. You can't live in 2 cultures. You live here, or where you are originaly from, but not both.
I am not Canadian yet (that will take 3 years) so yes, I am Dutch. The day I will have Canadian Citizenship, I lose my Dutch one. So then I will not be Dutch anymore, legaly. Why mention it then?

as were my parents, B .. sadly, you may be more the exception rather

than the rule.

So where's the news in that?

[Benoit]

Brenda Brenda:

I am not Canadian yet (that will take 3 years) so yes, I am Dutch. The day I will have Canadian Citizenship, I lose my Dutch one. So then I will not be Dutch anymore, legaly.

The Canadian citizenship is relatively valuable compared to most other citizenships. Most Canadians don't deserve their citizenship, they have obtain it at birth. The Canadian multiculturalism is a way to recognize all this.

[Pimpbrewski]

Oh how I would like to comment on this matter, but I better not.

It is, for the most part, interesting and details many very good points.

''Many'' should be grateful to be allowed to live in a society such as ours and more importantly live in a great country such as Canada. Instead of looking to impose their own values and traditions, they should instead try to adapt to the Canadian ones.

On the other hand, as far as the Quebec City segment, perhaps she or someone could probably explain the reason why the Conservatives almost swept the entire Quebec City region in the last Federal election. That should be a good indication that there are many, in that region, that consider themselves Canadians. Now, I do not want to categorize in any way, but that's my opinion.

I am allowed to be a proud Quebecer, but at the same time, I can also say with pride that I am a proud Canadian. So Ignatieff or, multiculturism for that matter, if they don't like it, then it's like the saying goes: Kiss My Ass.

[kenmore]

multiculturalism was the countrys biggest mistake... it erodes the country and devides us by race... its time to abolish it... we all should be Canadian... and not hyphenated either...

[Benoit]

Pimpbrewski Pimpbrewski:

''Many'' should be grateful to be allowed to live in a society such as ours and more importantly live in a great country such as Canada. Instead of looking to impose their own values and traditions, they should instead try to adapt to the Canadian ones.

The bigger the prize you win in a random lottery, and the Canadian citizenship is a big one, the riskier you lose your values and self-respect.