[faile]

Telling of which leader actually needs to be replaced.

[EyeBrock]

Too cryptic for me, explain!

[Marc01]

MacDonaill MacDonaill:

Elvis Elvis:

Marc01 Marc01:

great Bloc got a big majority in Québec, as usual. Thanks to us, conservatives don't have a majority !

Marc01 we should apologize to our canadian friend they should had have there conservative majority. this are the number of this election without Québec

con 132
Lib 64
NPD 36
IND 1
Total
233

117 for a majority


If you want a country that reflect your Value as Canadian I suggest that we all make donation to the PQ and BQ so that Québec leave your Country.

Faudrait d'abord convaincre aux Québécois de se séparer, ce qui est le vrai problème pour votre mouvement. Comme Harper, vous êtes vivant, mais incapable de persuader une vraie majorité de la population de vous soutenir.

Que penses-tu de convaincre les Canadiens anglais de voter pour le Bloc, pour qu'il forme un gouvernement majoritaire et fasse la séparation du Québec de manière unilatérale ? Tous les Conservateurs frustrés d'avoir perdu leur majorité devrait être pour la séparation du Québec !

[Zipperfish]

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Too cryptic for me, explain!

Liberals wan't Harper to resign because they see Harper as a threat. Conservatives want Dion to say becasue they see him as easily beatable.

[uwish]

tritium tritium:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

...despite the pages of partisan rhetoric you posted?

What partisan rhetoric... please quote what you consider partisan rhetoric.

I said that I wanted to see a minority government again, leaving the status quo.

I also said that IF the Liberals, NDP and Green party took a page from the Conservative/Reform Party page and consolidated into one party... New Liberal Democrats, they would win a majority with the percentage of votes.

143 seats with 36% of the national vote. Basically because the NDP and Liberals split the vote... allowing the Concervatives to gain more seats.

maybe math wasn't your best subject, but even if the liberals and the NDP AND the Greens banded together they STILL would NOT have won

143 CPC

NDP + Liberals 113

sorry you still loose

[HyperionTheEvil]

uwish uwish:

tritium tritium:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

...despite the pages of partisan rhetoric you posted?

What partisan rhetoric... please quote what you consider partisan rhetoric.

I said that I wanted to see a minority government again, leaving the status quo.

I also said that IF the Liberals, NDP and Green party took a page from the Conservative/Reform Party page and consolidated into one party... New Liberal Democrats, they would win a majority with the percentage of votes.

143 seats with 36% of the national vote. Basically because the NDP and Liberals split the vote... allowing the Concervatives to gain more seats.

maybe math wasn't your best subject, but even if the liberals and the NDP AND the Greens banded together they STILL would NOT have won

143 CPC

NDP + Liberals 113

sorry you still loose

Good luck with that. hald the people in the Liberal party would be up in arms and would likely jump ship, plus they would need to picka leader. As it is neither May or Dion are remotely qaulified. So your talking about a party merger and a new leader?

good luck with that

[Canadaka]

uwish uwish:

tritium tritium:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

...despite the pages of partisan rhetoric you posted?

What partisan rhetoric... please quote what you consider partisan rhetoric.

I said that I wanted to see a minority government again, leaving the status quo.

I also said that IF the Liberals, NDP and Green party took a page from the Conservative/Reform Party page and consolidated into one party... New Liberal Democrats, they would win a majority with the percentage of votes.

143 seats with 36% of the national vote. Basically because the NDP and Liberals split the vote... allowing the Concervatives to gain more seats.

maybe math wasn't your best subject, but even if the liberals and the NDP AND the Greens banded together they STILL would NOT have won

143 CPC

NDP + Liberals 113

sorry you still loose

Its not about the total seat count its about the vote split. If there was one left party the Conservatives would not win MANY of the seats they did because of the riding by riding vote split on the left. For example I bet that every new seat the conservatives won, the combined Liberal+NDP+Green vote is more.

I dont think a merger will happen though and the Liberals will be back, to think otherwise is foolish.

[EyeBrock]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

Too cryptic for me, explain!

Liberals wan't Harper to resign because they see Harper as a threat. Conservatives want Dion to say becasue they see him as easily beatable.

Thanks!

[EyeBrock]

Canadaka

I mentioned the vote split to you the other day.......it's role reversal from the Reform/PC days. Now its the left wing's turn to spend time in the wilderness, wandering the world like cain.....

[mtbr]

Canadaka Canadaka:

Its not about the total seat count its about the vote split. If there was one left party the Conservatives would not win MANY of the seats they did because of the riding by riding vote split on the left. For example I bet that every new seat the conservatives won, the combined Liberal+NDP+Green vote is more.

I dont think a merger will happen though and the Liberals will be back, to think otherwise is foolish.

the green party is not really a left party.

there are a lot of conservatives who are willing to vote green but not Lib or NDP.

so lumping all their votes together is a stretch.

check out Alberta's stats

[MacDonaill]

Marc01 Marc01:

Que penses-tu de convaincre les Canadiens anglais de voter pour le Bloc, pour qu'il forme un gouvernement majoritaire et fasse la séparation du Québec de manière unilatérale ? Tous les Conservateurs frustrés d'avoir perdu leur majorité devrait être pour la séparation du Québec !

Ce dont vous parlez n'est pas possible. Alors qu'en pensé-je? Pas grande chose.

Si vous, les souverainistes, veulent séparer le Québec du Canada, il vous faudra une majorité légitime des voix au niveau provincial, et c'est tout. Pas de raccourcis à deux balles comme celui que vous avez proposé.

Vous n'allez pas me dire que maintenant vous cherchez l'aide des anglos pour effectuer votre projet à la con. Vous n'êtes pas aussi désespérés que ça.

[tritium]

uwish uwish:

tritium tritium:

EyeBrock EyeBrock:

...despite the pages of partisan rhetoric you posted?

What partisan rhetoric... please quote what you consider partisan rhetoric.

I said that I wanted to see a minority government again, leaving the status quo.

I also said that IF the Liberals, NDP and Green party took a page from the Conservative/Reform Party page and consolidated into one party... New Liberal Democrats, they would win a majority with the percentage of votes.

143 seats with 36% of the national vote. Basically because the NDP and Liberals split the vote... allowing the Concervatives to gain more seats.

maybe math wasn't your best subject, but even if the liberals and the NDP AND the Greens banded together they STILL would NOT have won

143 CPC

NDP + Liberals 113

sorry you still loose

I wasn't talking seats you moron, I was talking about the percentage or vote share %.

37.46% of the population voted right wing.

26.56% + 17.98% (or 44.54%) voted left wing.

It looks to me if merged into one Left wing party, they would have won more seats and possibly a majority win.

The Conservatives won by default, because the left wing vote was split between the Liberals & NDP.

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[mtbr]

People are not always willing to transfer their votes from one party to the next. I'm sure many Liberals would vote Conservative before they voted NDP.
Some Conservatives would vote Green before voting for the Libs and the NDP.

[tritium]

mtbr mtbr:

People are not always willing to transfer their votes from one party to the next. I'm sure many Liberals would vote Conservative before they voted NDP.
Some Conservatives would vote Green before voting for the Libs and the NDP.

This is true mtbr.

However, did you vote for the Reform Party of Canada, Alliance Party or the Conservative Party back in the day?

Being you are old enough to remember when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, I figured you would not have forgotten the merger between the Reform Party and Conservative party.

Far right and center right parties.

The reason why the NDP picked up a few seats, is, at least what I think, is that the Liberal Party has drifted from the left towards the center and away from core values.

Here is an example below how the two right win parties PC & Reform had their vote split and the Liberals won 155 seats. (Federal Election Results - 1997)

http://canadaonline.about.com/library/e ... sfed97.htm

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[Marc01]

MacDonaill MacDonaill:

Marc01 Marc01:

Que penses-tu de convaincre les Canadiens anglais de voter pour le Bloc, pour qu'il forme un gouvernement majoritaire et fasse la séparation du Québec de manière unilatérale ? Tous les Conservateurs frustrés d'avoir perdu leur majorité devrait être pour la séparation du Québec !

Ce dont vous parlez n'est pas possible. Alors qu'en pensé-je? Pas grande chose.

Si vous, les souverainistes, veulent séparer le Québec du Canada, il vous faudra une majorité légitime des voix au niveau provincial, et c'est tout. Pas de raccourcis à deux balles comme celui que vous avez proposé.

Vous n'allez pas me dire que maintenant vous cherchez l'aide des anglos pour effectuer votre projet à la con. Vous n'êtes pas aussi désespérés que ça.

Je faisais une blague, c'est évident que ce n'est pas possible. Mais c'est quand même spécial que à cause du Québec, le PC n'aura pas un gouvernement fort. Je pense que certains doivent trouver qu'on a pas d'affaire dans la fédération, et je suis bien d'accord avec ça.