[Newsbot]

Title: CAW says it won't budge on compensation
Category: Business
Posted By: mtbr
Date: 2008-12-20 07:47:34
Canadian

[mtbr]

to hell with you , we can save 5 billion and all the CAW members can move to Detroit.

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Tegan Tegan:

When has lower union wages ever saved a company from bankruptcy?

Fording coal,Teck Cominco,Greenhills operation was the only mine left running when it went back non union,all the rest shut down.

And when did Higher union wages bankrupt a company?

How about Marine pipeline?

[mtbr]

Too late there was just a giant flush from Ontario.

Harper, McGuinty announce auto bailout package

Updated Sat. Dec. 20 2008 10:59 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... TopStories

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Wonder when I get my bailout?

[Mowich]

The CAW is once again proving that union mentality is mired in the cult of entitlement. It is my hope that contingent upon GM and Chrysler receiving ANY bailout, the unions MUST be FORCED to make concessions. There are hundreds of Canadians more than prepared to accept a job at GM or Chrysler for any wage at all.

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The union leader says "We wont be dictated to by the government" as he has his hand out.

[hwacker]

ziggy ziggy:

The union leader says "We wont be dictated to by the government" as he has his hand out.

easy fix, no money unless you accept the following .........................



Fuck the CAW/UAW

[martin14]

Tegan Tegan:

When has lower union wages ever saved a company from bankruptcy?

In this case, the perception may be far more important than the reality.

It may not really matter, but the unions look just stupid now,
and cannot garner any public support when they behave like this.

[StuntmanMike]

I think most of you guys are a bit hard on the CAW. While it's true, auto workers enjoy a pretty good wage and benefit package for the work they do, the CAW has been quite reasonable during negotiations over the last decade or so. They have made concessions over the last few rounds of negotiations, and I suspect, despite the latest rhetoric, they will make further ones in the near future. It's not the auto workers who made the bad decisions that brought these companies to death's doorstep, it was the highly compensated executives.

Alot of people seem to lump private sector manufacturing unions in with the public sectors workers from PSAC, CUPE, teachers and the postal workers. That's unfair, because while the public sector workers demands in this day and age can only be described as delusional, the private sector unions are actually quite accomodating. After all, they know their industries are in trouble and they don't want to see their companies go bankrupt either.

[herbie]

Don't talk sense. They make $75 an hour and I only make $12
WAAAAHHHHHHH!!! WAAAHHHH!!!
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Now back to reality... how the hell do they cut when the Big3 are carrying 100,000s of retiree pensions and the "Japanese" North American plants haven't been running long enough to even have a retiree?
Screw 100,000s of pensioners? And this is good somehow?

[hwacker]

herbie herbie:

Don't talk sense. They make $75 an hour and I only make $12
WAAAAHHHHHHH!!! WAAAHHHH!!!
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Now back to reality... how the hell do they cut when the Big3 are carrying 100,000s of retiree pensions and the "Japanese" North American plants haven't been running long enough to even have a retiree?
Screw 100,000s of pensioners? And this is good somehow?

really, when did the Alliston and Marysville plants open ?

Ok Mr. Smartass if they don't take cuts get ready for IE like you have never seen before, coming to you in march 09.

I don't want one cent of my money going to these people. they made their beds now let them starve.

[ridenrain]

Pension funds are paid while the employee is still working and since the company matched that when the plant was functioning, in theory all the money that goes to the pensioners is already paid and secure. The pension funds are not part of the company's working funds.

.. that is, unless Paul Martin got to them.

[Sapio]

It's pretty simple they will have too, or they will lose their jobs. Give them time they will make the right decision in the end.

PS: I not a big fan of any Union

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herbie herbie:

Don't talk sense. They make $75 an hour and I only make $12
WAAAAHHHHHHH!!! WAAAHHHH!!!
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Now back to reality... how the hell do they cut when the Big3 are carrying 100,000s of retiree pensions and the "Japanese" North American plants haven't been running long enough to even have a retiree?
Screw 100,000s of pensioners? And this is good somehow?

Here let me give you a blunt hint (don't mistake this as a blunt hit)

In 1977, Honda announced that it would begin U.S. manufacturing with a motorcycle plant in Marysville. On Sept. 10, 1979, the first bike came off the line. The next day, Honda of America received this facsimile message from Tokyo headquarters: "Proceed with auto plant." The original USA 001 Accord is on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Mich.
Honda began U.S. sales operations in 1959, the company's first venture abroad. Honda's cumulative investments in U.S. operations exceeds $9 billion. Last year, the company purchased more than $17.6 billion in parts and materials from its 610 suppliers in North America.

10,000 Days and nobody has retired, Nice try but i don't think so.