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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:53 pm
 


The Chinese can't build a reliable toothpick, nevermind a mach 10 balistic missile.

I call bullshit.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:10 pm
 


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The Chinese can't build a reliable toothpick, nevermind a mach 10 balistic missile.

I call bullshit.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:55 pm
 


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My bet would be that in a real war-time operation it doesn't work like they claim it will. A weapons system of this type NEVER lives up to the hype. Anyone remember the first generation Patriot missle? If it hit anything it was almost blind luck! 8O


The Patriot was pretty good at smoking RAF Tornado's however... :lol:


Yep, lost a few people I know over on that one. Good old US Army.
Between them and the USAF they accounted for 90% of UK deaths in combat during Gulf War I. But we still love them, just. They were much better on GWII


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:57 pm
 


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Yep, lost a few people I know over on that one. Good old US Army.
Between them and the USAF they accounted for 90% of UK deaths in combat during Gulf War I. But we still love them, just. They were much better on GWII


They had plenty of practice in Bosnia, I guess


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:09 pm
 


What about those Soviet / Iranian underwater missile dealies, I thought those were suppose to be the end all be all solution against Carriers and other surface ships.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:11 pm
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
saturn_656 saturn_656:
2Cdo 2Cdo:
My bet would be that in a real war-time operation it doesn't work like they claim it will. A weapons system of this type NEVER lives up to the hype. Anyone remember the first generation Patriot missle? If it hit anything it was almost blind luck! 8O


The Patriot was pretty good at smoking RAF Tornado's however... :lol:


Yep, lost a few people I know over on that one. Good old US Army.
Between them and the USAF they accounted for 90% of UK deaths in combat during Gulf War I. But we still love them, just. They were much better on GWII


My bad, I wasn't aware there were casualties... :oops:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:33 pm
 


I have no doubt that the carriers could probally knock them out of the air before they reach there target. Let's not forget that U.S. Carriers do not travel alone. They travel with other Naval elements like Destroyers, etc who have specific tech and uses to battle all threats that many threaten them. The U.S. Carriers alone have smart defenses such as missles that can take out other missles coming at the carrier. Great Radar, etc. I also am sure that the carriers travel with ships capable of doing the exact same thing and some even capable of doing a better job at it.

With all the different ships and firepower the carriers travel with. I don't see how one missle could get by all that defense. Specificly a missle that these ships have the tech to knock out. Unless this missle is like super-fast than normal missles and can hit it's target before there radar, crew or defense systems even know wtf hit them. I doubt this new missle (if there is one, they got the intel from some blog?) could do the trick against years and years of military research and billions of dollars worth of equipment.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:47 pm
 


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I have no doubt that the carriers could probally knock them out of the air before they reach there target. Let's not forget that U.S. Carriers do not travel alone. They travel with other Naval elements like Destroyers, etc who have specific tech and uses to battle all threats that many threaten them. The U.S. Carriers alone have smart defenses such as missles that can take out other missles coming at the carrier. Great Radar, etc. I also am sure that the carriers travel with ships capable of doing the exact same thing and some even capable of doing a better job at it.

With all the different ships and firepower the carriers travel with. I don't see how one missle could get by all that defense. Specificly a missle that these ships have the tech to knock out. Unless this missle is like super-fast than normal missles and can hit it's target before there radar, crew or defense systems even know wtf hit them. I doubt this new missle (if there is one, they got the intel from some blog?) could do the trick against years and years of military research and billions of dollars worth of equipment.


You're thinking of a Carrier Battle Group, usualy comprises of seven or eight ships plus the Carrier including submarines. And they carry more missiles/ bombs/ bullets in that one group than our entire Navy combined.

The only real threat to a carrier is a torpedo fired from very close, but you would still only need one, those ADCAP MK-48s are bad ass. Also to neutralize a carrier all you have to do is damage the flight deck.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:19 pm
 


I think the safest place to be when those Chinese missiles are launched is exactly where they're aimed.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:24 pm
 


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The only real threat to a carrier is a torpedo fired from very close, but you would still only need one, those ADCAP MK-48s are bad ass. Also to neutralize a carrier all you have to do is damage the flight deck.


I just looked up the MK 48 because I had no idea what you were talking about. 8O holy crap!



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:03 pm
 


as fast as that fucker went down, it was only 2000 tonnes vs 70 000.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:07 pm
 


What kind of subs does Australia have?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:09 pm
 


The thing might not be very effective, but could the Chinese be thinking in terms of launching huge numbers of the missiles to overwhelm defences?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:16 pm
 


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What kind of subs does Australia have?


They have half a dozen diesel boats...all constructed in their own yards.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:18 pm
 


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