[herbie]

I'd say hold a contest for a new one, but judging by the quarters and Olympic logos it would end up looking like a 6 year old found Mommy's Diazepam and a box of crayons....

[Regina]

[Tman1]

Streaker Streaker:

Tman1 Tman1:

what next? The Chinese flag as a second flag of Canada by popular demand?

This likening of aboriginal Canadians to the Chinese is at best very clumsy.

So is your cut and paste attempt instead of filling in the whole point I made. Their are more Chinese than First Nations in Canada.

[Streaker]

Tman1 Tman1:

Streaker Streaker:

Tman1 Tman1:

what next? The Chinese flag as a second flag of Canada by popular demand?

This likening of aboriginal Canadians to the Chinese is at best very clumsy.

There are more Chinese in Canada than First Nations.

I'm not so certain of that, but the point is irrelevant.

Aboriginal cultures are indigenous to Canada - in that sense at least they are particularly Canadian.

Chinese culture obviously isn't indigenous.

Your attempt to liken aboriginal Canadians to foreigners is just plain silly.

[Streaker]

Tman1 Tman1:

Streaker Streaker:

Tman1 Tman1:

what next? The Chinese flag as a second flag of Canada by popular demand?

This likening of aboriginal Canadians to the Chinese is at best very clumsy.

Way to cut and choose but that wasn't in exact reference to 'likening' itself to aboriginals but rather a cultural point. There are more Chinese in Canada than First Nations.

You and your bloody edits!

Once again, double-check the numbers. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there are indeed more aboriginal Canadians than Chinese-Canadians.

Still, as previously mentioned, this is completely irrelevant either way.

[Tman1]

Streaker Streaker:

I'm not so certain of that, but the point is irrelevant.

Aboriginal cultures are indigenous to Canada - in that sense at least they are particularly Canadian.

Chinese culture obviously isn't indigenous.

Your attempt to liken aboriginal Canadians to foreigners is just plain silly.

Actually it is relevant. The more population of that particular culture, the more representation they will want and if you aren't certain of that, look it up. I did.

I was born in Canada. I guess I am "indigenous" as well eh? Your ethnic origins aside, did you consider what aboriginals themselves feel like? Do you think they think they are Canadians? Do they care? They want their own government, why do they have to be on our coat of arms?

You need to look up the word 'indigenous' and obviously being one of those doesn't get you special treatment or otherwise.

I'm not likening aboriginal Canadians to foreigners at all. My point was sarcastic enough to warrent "A chinese flag as our second symbol" due to the population of Chinese and other Asians in some parts of this country but I guess that's just clumsy of me.

[Tman1]

Streaker Streaker:

Once again, double-check the numbers. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if there are indeed more aboriginal Canadians than Chinese-Canadians.

Still, as previously mentioned, this is completely irrelevant either way.

Sorry, I don't need to do your own homework here. You weren't 'certain' of it before and now you tell me to double-check my numbers...wow.

It's irrelevant but it warrents a whole new post anyways right?

[Streaker]

Tman1 Tman1:

Streaker Streaker:

I'm not so certain of that, but the point is irrelevant.

Aboriginal cultures are indigenous to Canada - in that sense at least they are particularly Canadian.

Chinese culture obviously isn't indigenous.

Your attempt to liken aboriginal Canadians to foreigners is just plain silly.

Actually it is relevant. The more population of that particular culture, the more representation they will want and if you aren't certain of that, look it up. I did.

Well, so far there hasn't been any attempt to put the Chinese flag on the Canadian coat of arms, now has there?

You're just being ridiculous.

Tman1 Tman1:

I was born in Canada. I guess I am "indigenous" as well eh? Your ethnic origins aside, did you consider what aboriginals themselves feel like? Do you think they think they are Canadians?

I'll bet more of them do than you think, although I can't blame those who don't after having had to face a lifetime of petty attitudes from people like you, who seem to think that they're foreigners in their own homeland.

Tman Tman:

Do they care? They want their own government, why do they have to be on our coat of arms?

Yeah, some argue for more autonomy. That doesn't mean that they are all somehow un-Canadian, as you've now repeatedly suggested.

Aboriginal symbols are Canadian in a way which French, British or Chinese(!) symbols can never be. There's no reason not to acknowledge this on our coat of arms.

Tman Tman:

You need to look up the word 'indigenous' and obviously being one of those doesn't get you special treatment or otherwise.

Oh. You don't like them getting "special treatment".

Tman Tman:

I'm not likening aboriginal Canadians to foreigners at all.

Well, you did make a flip comment suggesting that they were no more Canadian than the Chinese (the ones in China, no less!).

Tman Tman:

My point was sarcastic enough to warrent "A chinese flag as our second symbol" due to the population of Chinese and other Asians in some parts of this country but I guess that's just clumsy of me.

Good to see you admit your clumsiness. The next step will be to admit that this last little bit came perilously close to being stupid.

[Tman1]

Streaker Streaker:

Well, so far there hasn't been any attempt to put the Chinese flag on the Canadian coat of arms, now has there?

You're just being ridiculous.

I never said there was nor implied there was.

You're just being pathetic. Got those numbers yet?

$1:

I'll bet more of them do than you think, although I can't blame those who don't after having had to face a lifetime of petty attitudes from people like you, who seem to think that they're foreigners in their own homeland.

I doubt that and it seems you are just grasping straws here plus putting words in my mouth. Foot in mouth disease is a problem in some parts.

Petty attitudes, I live 2km from a reserve in Saskatchewan and work with them and I know their attitudes, hopes, dreams and history.

$1:

Yeah, some argue for more autonomy. That doesn't mean that they are all somehow un-Canadian, as you've now repeatedly suggested.

Where did I suggest "Aboriginals are un-Canadian" repeatedly? Another case of putting words in my mouth and going off on several tangents in the process and you face-smashing my elbow.

$1:

Aboriginal symbols are Canadian in a way which French, British or Chinese(!) symbols can never be. There's no reason not to acknowledge this on our coat of arms.

This doesn't make sense. Aboriginal symbols are more 'Canadian' as you put it, in a way the original powers that be created this country aren't? Explain this gem please. Aboriginals are already represented continuously with town names, city streets, Vancouver 2010, and here you are bitching about our coat of arms. Please.

$1:

Oh. You don't like them getting "special treatment".

You didn't answer any of the questions. Why?

$1:

Well, you did make a flip comment suggesting that they were no more Canadian than the Chinese (the ones in China, no less!).

Quote this flip statement of mine suggesting aboriginals aren't as Canadian as Chinese. You keep talking about the concept of "un-Canadian" and who is more Canadian where I simply pointed the fact that Chinese outnumber aboriginals or at least in some major areas of Canada and that our coat of arms is fine the way it is, aboriginals in most part want their own culture, identity, land claims, and government and here you are pissing yourself over a coat of arms.

$1:

Good to see you admit your clumsiness. The next step will be to admit that this last little bit came perilously close to being stupid.

My clumsiness? Look at the mass of mush you just presented. Nothing you said is even remotely coherent to what I originally said, that and your lack of reading comprehension so yeah, take a look at yourself before you start judging this poor exchange and hey, you started it.

Damn, were you drunk when you wrote this in some lame attempt at an argument?