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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:54 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:56 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Proculation Proculation: That's clearly a "heckler's veto" to censor and they succeeded. That is what is sad. I'm as big a free-speech advocate as you'll find, but the "hecker's veto" isn't censorship; it's an ESSENTIAL part of free-speech. It's the freedom to call-out fucktards who exercise idiotic speech. You can't advocate free speech and at the same time criticize folks for responding to it. That's why we want free-speech: to allow douchebags to be identified for their doucebagary and be called on it. That's the chance you take when you say outrageous things. Nonesense, like Ann Coulter's, being shut down by the people, instead of the police waving hate-speech laws, is exactly how this behaviour should be dealt with. Humm I find your point of view quite disturbing. So you say that any majority can silence someone "because they are against what's being said" ? You understand that things like that happened before and led to some awful things written in history books ? 
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:57 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: The post was half a joke and half a somewhat serious criticism of a flaw in free speech.
What is "Self-Styled"?
Oh, and me. I'd totally love that. I mean that you describe yourself as a "communist".
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:58 pm
Proculation Proculation: Humm I find your point of view quite disturbing. So you say that any majority can silence someone "because they are against what's being said" ? You understand that things like that happened before and led to some awful things written in history books ?  I'm not saying they can silence them. I'm saying that if you walk into Harlem wearing a "Fuck Niggers" t-shirt, you should expect to get pounded. That's exactly what happened to Ann Coulter.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:59 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:04 pm
Lemmy Lemmy: Proculation Proculation: Humm I find your point of view quite disturbing. So you say that any majority can silence someone "because they are against what's being said" ? You understand that things like that happened before and led to some awful things written in history books ?  I'm not saying they can silence them. I'm saying that if you walk into Harlem wearing a "Fuck Niggers" t-shirt, you should expect to get pounded. That's exactly what happened to Ann Coulter. And you approve that ?
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:06 pm
Proculation Proculation: They tried but were overwhelm. That was the point. They evacuated the place and after that the event was canceled for security reasons.
I don't understand how it's so difficult to understand.
You CAN think it's a good thing that have done because you think there are people that should be stop from talking. It's your opinion. My opinion is the contrary.
When I was at the University of Montreal we had some conferences from very extreme leftwing people talking about revolution, revolt and "bringing down the system". They were never prevented to speak and i've been to one. I was totally against the opinion and so were a lot of people but we were able to ask question and give our opinion at the mike. We didn't "rush the place", started a fire alarm or anything to stop those people from telling those things. Give up Proc. The radical left in the country is just as bad as the radical right, your allowed to speak only if we like you, everything else is spin and bullshit. Some people are trying to blow smoke up your ass by about who shut down what in order to not deal with the fact that left wing loonies stalk the halls of Ottawa U. This just made Ottawa U look bad, Considering her speaking tour was about Political Correctness gone mad what transpired just proved her point.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:11 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:12 pm
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: Proculation Proculation: Mr_Canada Mr_Canada: The post was half a joke and half a somewhat serious criticism of a flaw in free speech.
What is "Self-Styled"?
Oh, and me. I'd totally love that. I mean that you describe yourself as a "communist". Ah, alright. For the 'record', I believe in Free Speech, and I support Canadian hate crime laws. I believe speech is a weapon to some people, especially when they hold a significant amount of power, like Ann Coulter does through her little movement. Exploitative, discriminating, and a threat to society. Not to mention that she's so amazingly retarded that she should get a medal for being able to speak English. Letting stupid persons talk (or even live) is the price to pay to live in a free society. There's this guy passing by my house to walk his dog every night. The dog is the uglier dog you would ever see. Just looking at him, I want to throw up. I would say that I would have some satisfying feelings if an 'accident' happened to that dog. Things ugly like that should not be have the right to live. Unfortunetly, I have to deal with it 
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:12 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:15 pm
$1: No one 'approves' anything, Proculation.
You believe the guy walking into Harlem wearing a 'Fuck Niggers' t-shirt is a soldier of free speech, a miracle of our society, a golden gem, something we need more of.
You believe such a man should be protected. He is merely expressing a horribly racist and horrific sentiment. How dare people be offended. How dare people object. How dare people demand them to cease!
Proculation, will you be there to defend me if I go down to the Untied States and suggest we should murder American leaders, destroy their culture, belittle their people, and then set fire to a flag? Good to hear, can't wait. I would think the guy is an idiot, that's all. By even idiots have rights (see last comment).
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:17 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:20 pm
To make a parallel with you, I have a perfect situation.
A friend of mine was walking in the streets of Montreal at night, going home. He had a red shirt, written "CCCP" with the hammer and sickle. Well, at a corner 3 guys passed by him and began to hassle him "Fuckin' communist!". Last thing he remembers, he wakes up beaten up bad in the hospital.
What's worse between the "Fuck niggers" and "CCCP" t-shirts ?
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:21 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:26 pm
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