[Tricks]

llama66 llama66:

I think it was a touch more of a vote for change than a clear rejection of an ideology.

An issue I think a lot of countries are falling into is that they are voting for a change by swinging hard in the other direction. So they go from one extreme to the other. The is largely the politicians faults because they are presenting moderate options.

[BartSimpson]

Tricks Tricks:

llama66 llama66:

I think it was a touch more of a vote for change than a clear rejection of an ideology.

An issue I think a lot of countries are falling into is that they are voting for a change by swinging hard in the other direction. So they go from one extreme to the other. The is largely the politicians faults because they are presenting moderate options.

Right now the bulk of change is to swing to the right.

I can't think of any major election in the past few years where the swing went further to the left.

[BeaverFever]

A right wing fascist leader who openly endorses dictatorship, torture, extrajudicial killings, violence against immigrants and LQBTQ people, mass arrests of political opponents, and clear cutting the Amazon.

And Trump and the far-right leaders of Europe can barely contain their joy endorsing his regime. Shocker.

[BartSimpson]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

A right wing fascist leader who openly endorses dictatorship, torture, extrajudicial killings, violence against immigrants and LQBTQ people, mass arrests of political opponents, and clear cutting the Amazon.

And Trump and the far-right leaders of Europe can barely contain their joy endorsing his regime. Shocker.

I can barely contain my joy at knowing that yet one more country has told the Marxists to fuck off and die.

[Thanos]

With "Marxist" now including anyone to the political left of David Duke or Andrew Anglin.

$1:

Invoke not reason. It is too small a deity.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

A right wing fascist leader who openly endorses dictatorship, torture, extrajudicial killings, violence against immigrants and LQBTQ people, mass arrests of political opponents, and clear cutting the Amazon.

And Trump and the far-right leaders of Europe can barely contain their joy endorsing his regime. Shocker.

I can barely contain my joy at knowing that yet one more country has told the Marxists to fuck off and die.

So did Hitler. Did that give you joy too?

And what “marxists” anyway? His opponents were not marxists

Your comments just prove what we’ve long been saying here, the new extremist right has no morals or values and will support any evil, as long as that evil also promises terrorize people you hate. Shameful

[JaredMilne]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

llama66 llama66:

Sure is fun watching the slow collapse of society.

The left has been collapsing Brazil for quite some time and the bankrupting of Brazil for the Olympics and the World Cup along with the outright theft of private property to make way for those projects alienated the people from their leftist overlords.

It's time for a change and I'm happy for Brazil that they're joining the ranks of the nations who are rejecting the failed philosophies of Marxism.

Curiously, according to Wikipedia, Luiz Inacio Da Silva was actually more moderate than many people give him credit for. He paid off Brazil's debt to the IMF and achieved a budget surplus ahead of schedule, improved Brazil's international credit rating, and his social spending brought millions of Brazilians into the middle class. A lot of more radical leftists also abandoned Lula as he moved towards the centre. Notably, he was noted as polling twice the numbers of Bolsonaro before he was barred from running.

If anything, Lula seems to have been able to manage a very difficult political balancing act of left and right positions, while improving Brazil as a whole. It's a shame he turned out to be crooked...but then again, it's not like we in Canada or the U.S. have a lot of room to throw stones.

[xerxes]

No, but he was pretty damn crooked. And so was his successor, Rousseff. I think at one point last year, five most senior people in the Brazilian government were under investigation for corruption.

[martin14]

JaredMilne JaredMilne:

Notably, he was noted as polling twice the numbers of Bolsonaro before he was barred from running.

Gee, can't imagine why he suddenly couldn't run.
Oh, right. A jail cell.

[DrCaleb]

xerxes xerxes:

No, but he was pretty damn crooked. And so was his successor, Rousseff. I think at one point last year, five most senior people in the Brazilian government were under investigation for corruption.

On Netflix is a show "The Mechanism" that is a true crime retelling of busting corruption in Brazil. Pretty amazing how it's not only accepted but entrenched deep in the culture for more than 100 years. And it went very deep into the government.

It's going to be a long uphill road to clean it up.

[DrCaleb]

[llama66]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I can't think of any major election in the past few years where the swing went further to the left.

There was that one country... began with a C... can't remember what its called tho... this is going to bother me.

[martin14]

llama66 llama66:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I can't think of any major election in the past few years where the swing went further to the left.

There was that one country... began with a C... can't remember what its called tho... this is going to bother me.

Oh, that silly little snowflake country ?

Meh, they are always 5 - 10 years behind.
Another term with the current snowflake in chief, and they will catch up.
Might be too late though.

[llama66]

martin14 martin14:

llama66 llama66:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I can't think of any major election in the past few years where the swing went further to the left.

There was that one country... began with a C... can't remember what its called tho... this is going to bother me.

Oh, that silly little snowflake country ?

Meh, they are always 5 - 10 years behind.
Another term with the current snowflake in chief, and they will catch up.
Might be too late though.

Why's that? because the rest of the far right leaders executing their people will serve a warning to other, more reasonable nations not to elect the bat-shit crazy of the faaaar right. (It's fine to elect the right, just not the extreme, ultra insane, fucked in the head faaar right.)

[Sunnyways]

Great news! He'll drain the rainforest:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-46039996