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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:44 pm
Wasn't the spooked bulls story the BLM was spinning from last week. There's pics of those at the link above too. Aren't the buried cattle a more recent find? I haven't read the full story above yet. I'll join you there.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:50 pm
Ok right, the BLM admitted to killing the bulls. Unless there is more evidence, I'll have to chalk the rest of it up to bullshit. However, I am happy to hear about your new found love of animals, maybe your new found love will transcend the fate of the cows and extend to animals which are in far more danger.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:08 pm
Delwin Delwin: Ok right, the BLM admitted to killing the bulls. Unless there is more evidence, I'll have to chalk the rest of it up to bullshit. However, I am happy to hear about your new found love of animals, maybe your new found love will transcend the fate of the cows and extend to animals which are in far more danger. But there is evidence. The story the BLM was telling about how the professional cowhands they hired couldn't handle two prize bulls so they had to shoot them was from last week. I remember seeing it. I think it was at Fox. Here's one of those guys.  Then yesterday as shown in Bart's link there was this... $1: The first mass cattle graves photos released by Cliven Bundy and his supporters on Sunday appear to substantiate reports by witnesses who first reported the cattle deaths. Nevada assemblywoman Michel Fiore was among those who maintained that BLM agents either killed cattle by either shooting them or running them to death during the Bunkerville incident. Fiore posted several images of the cow grave on Twitter last night, labeling the posting, “#BLM massacre. This isn’t how you herd cattle.”   Also the Bundy girl filmed video of two dead heifers by a corral. Heifers not Bulls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS-nySJokqo
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:13 pm
So again, if it's really just about the debt, is that how you collect a debt?
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:18 pm
But also, let's not discount the fact that Bundy has an abundance of motive to try to paint the BLM as monsters, and the BLM workers have zero motive to start killing cows which they were going to sell and profit from. So there's that.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:27 pm
OK, so first of all you want us to believe professional cowhands herd bulls by shooting them if they misbehave, now you want us to believe Bundy killed his own cows, buried them, dug them up and did this while hundreds of witnesses including media were wandering the ranch, then convinced an assemblywomen to post the pics on Twitter. This assemblywomen - Michele Fiore. Hey, are you sure you're not with the BLM? Because you just keep digging. 
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:32 pm
Delwin Delwin: But also, let's not discount the fact that Bundy has an abundance of motive to try to paint the BLM as monsters, and the BLM workers have zero motive to start killing cows which they were going to sell and profit from. So there's that. A leftist all concerned about government making a profit???F8ck me, I've seen it all! 
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:01 pm
Hey, wait a minute now, speaking of leftists, I just thought of something.
Where's PETA on all this? When can we expect to see some naked celebrities with little cowhorns on their heads, little cowbells around their necks, holding PETA signs and lining up at the protest barbecue?
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:02 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: OK, so first of all you want us to believe professional cowhands herd bulls by shooting them if they misbehave, now you want us to believe Bundy killed his own cows, buried them, dug them up and did this while hundreds of witnesses including media were wandering the ranch, then convinced an assemblywomen to post the pics on Twitter. This assemblywomen - Michele Fiore. Hey, are you sure you're not with the BLM? Because you just keep digging.  Ok where are the bullets, I saw one in the bull. Pretty key piece of evidence. If the government shot all of these cows, they should all have bullets in them right? And I can't speak to what people are willing to do to avoid paying the federal government millions of dollars. I am not of that mindset. I obey the law. I know Al Capone was willing to "bend the rules".
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:11 pm
As I heard the allegation, the second group of cattle was killed buffalo style, running them over a ridge. I think the heifers they found dead were starved. But hey, since were playing detective now, here's one for you. The BLM claims it hired professional cowhands, right. These professionals supposedly killed the two bulls last week for misbehaving right? Is that normal procedure for professionals? These were prize bulls. I remember hearing about a prize bull that went for $600,000 and it was expected to make more than that for whoever bought it. What sort of professional cowhand shoots prize bulls for getting frisky? BTW, don't those buried cattle kind of remind you of those mass graves they were finding in Iraq after the downfall of Saddam. 
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:16 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: As I heard the allegation There we go, now we are having a big boy conversation.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:24 pm
You asked for an explanation as to why the photo takers wouldn't have gone to the trouble of showing you bullet-holes for the pics of the second group of murdered cattle. I gave you one possible explanation. Getting snarky here only means you know you're losing.
And since you want to bring up the money again I'll ask you again - If it was really about the money for the BLM why would they kill and bury their profit? Because that's what they did.
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:32 pm
OK, well before you start using the allegation as proof of something, you normally have to prove the allegation.
What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven." - Jean Chretien
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:33 pm
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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:36 pm
BRAH BRAH: Rick Perry will not be as cooperative as Nevada's gubner.
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