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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:06 pm
 


andyt andyt:
AI is just automating thinking instead of doing. As AI advances, there will probably be jobs lost to it as well.


You watch too much Stargate SG1. Replicators are just SCI-FI and Skynet is just part of a movie starring Schwarzenegger

Artificial intelligent entities will never be able to think like humans, after all it is artificial. Isaac Asimov must be squirming in his grave.


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PluggyRug PluggyRug:
andyt andyt:
AI is just automating thinking instead of doing. As AI advances, there will probably be jobs lost to it as well.


You watch too much Stargate SG1. Replicators are just SCI-FI and Skynet is just part of a movie starring Schwarzenegger

Artificial intelligent entities will never be able to think like humans, after all it is artificial. Isaac Asimov must be squirming in his grave.


Andy's looking forward to the day robots take over his diaper change at the seniors residence.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 2:21 pm
 


The only AI I want is a Stepford Wife. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 4:44 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
Artificial intelligent entities will never be able to think like humans, after all it is artificial. Isaac Asimov must be squirming in his grave.

The problem is not that AI will think like humans...the problem is what AI will think OF humans.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:33 pm
 


PluggyRug PluggyRug:
andyt andyt:
AI is just automating thinking instead of doing. As AI advances, there will probably be jobs lost to it as well.


You watch too much Stargate SG1. Replicators are just SCI-FI and Skynet is just part of a movie starring Schwarzenegger

Artificial intelligent entities will never be able to think like humans, after all it is artificial. Isaac Asimov must be squirming in his grave.


Guess I'll take Steven Hawking's word over yours.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:40 pm
 


DrCaleb DrCaleb:
andyt andyt:
IRobot Introduces System to Help Machines Think for Themselves

http://www.wsj.com/articles/irobot-intr ... 1412827295


Roomba is a vacuum cleaner. It's not even 'clock radio' smart. Having a machine that knows more about it's world is not anymore 'AI' than the movie 'Hackers' was about the real world. It just means a moron that has some sense of it's surroundings.

Cars that can drive themselves still aren't smart enough to replicate. Can they even gas themselves up? Nothing to see here, move along . . move along. . .

AI is defined as 'if you don't know you are talking to a machine or a human, then it's AI'. We are a very long way from that.


Turing's test doesn't have to apply. You may very well know you're communicating with a machine (talking, how quaint) but if that machine is able to replicate itself and start to out think us, then we could be in big trouble. For instance the machine may not have emotions at all, so we'd know right away we're "talking" to a machine, but it may logically decide, just as you've said, that we are a danger to the survival of the planet and need to be eliminated.

I see you're not above twisting the links I posted. The article isn't about roomba's, but
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The Pentagon and private-sector companies developing the next generation of robots are aiming to give them more autonomy so they can decide what to do—without external controls—when confronted with challenges in tough environments such as a battle zone or disaster area.


A military robot that can make decisions on it's own - what could go wrong with that, when they come out with the Mark V that can fully function in battle on it's own?


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BeaverFever BeaverFever:
If you read through, you'll see that only private sector jobs are counted. But an electical utility job in the private sector would and should count as "green energy" job if it's green...why wouldn't it?

Utilities are private sector, even if they are crown corporations. The employees don't work for the government, they work for a company owned by the government, semantics but important I think.

Smart grid upgrades are not a green energy job, any more than saying every employee that works with hydro or nuclear is a green energy job.

Sure it's not a good definition, but I'd take green economy jobs to be new jobs brought about by new developments in energy efficiency and technology. Not just any job dedicated to reducing waste or environmental compliance, or stuff we have had around for 60 years.

Or do we get to call the steel mill a green job because steel is used to make wind turbines and nuclear reactors? And the I guess so are coal miners because you can't make steel without coal.

I think we should drop the whole made up classification of green jobs, and stop trying to use the labor costs as justification for wind/solar energy projects.

Do you know why so much money needs to get invested in the grid upgrades?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJtv7gk ... I495vbsHkA

TL;DW Resonances within the production from micro electrical generators damage the electrical infrastructure, and need equipment to try and manage the harmonics and resonances that set up.


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