[DrCaleb]

Tricks Tricks:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

^^

And you wouldn't believe how hard I don't care about Hillary.

I couldn't give a fuck about Clinton. She's a trash human and I look forward to her fading into obscurity and never being seen again. The democrats deserve their loss for thinking one of the most unlikable people in their party was the right pick to run it.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump is a worse human being.

Also, Hillary has not declared me a security risk; put up tariff barriers to fuck my countries economy to hold a trade deal hostage; and has not used my countries respect for the rule of law to crowbar a different trade deal with China. Hillary does not try to fuck Canada at every opportunity.

But Trump has.

[fifeboy]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Tricks Tricks:

And then there is the Emolument clause. Also conveniently meaningless right now.

Actually it looks like Hillary is going to be investigated for her scheme to get payments from foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation in return for favors she performed as Secretary of State.

I wonder if there is a co-ed prison for Hillary and Donnie?

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Hillary does not try to fuck Canada at every opportunity.

Only because she never got the chance.
Obama already did more than enough.

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

It's cute the way Progressives use false equivalency to suggest hypocrisy.

The protests in Paris and the protests in Hungary are over different issues and "support" doesn't apply in both cases.

The Paris protests are coming from a widespread mostly suburban, leaderless, grassroots uprising over a number of issues including carbon taxing and open border globalism. The Hungarian protests are instigated by unionist, socialists and money managers to decry an increase in the hours of overtime allowed.

It's entirely reasonable to support one and want to know more about the other before making a final decision.

BTW Fifer if you find the word "Progressive" derogatory and don't want to be known as one just say so and I'll take you off the list. I'll tell you outright, I'm not a "fascist" and don't mind straightening you out on that fact. Speaking of false equivalency, I mean.

Paris protests...uprising....a number of issues
Hungarian protests...instigated...unionists , socialists and MONEY MANAGERS
And for the word progressive...to me it’s just a word indicating progress or movement towards a higher state. I don’t mind at all. It is, however as if you have it stuck in your brain, like an Alvin and the chipmunks song.
Try this, it may help

[N_Fiddledog]

So registering someone as a "Progressive" isn't the same as calling someone a fascist then.

Glad we straightened that out. No offence or anything but you progressives need to watch your false equivalencies.

[fifeboy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

So registering someone as a "Progressive" isn't the same as calling someone a fascist then.

Glad we straightened that out. No offence or anything but you progressives need to watch your false equivalencies.

Just out of curiosity, perhaps you could point out when I have used the term fascist! It may have happened but I can’t recall when. Waiting for an answer...waiting.
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[PublicAnimalNo9]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

New rules mean companies can demand up to 400 hours of overtime a year and delay payment for it for three years.

In case anyone didn’t do the math an extra 400 hours per year is 7.5 hours a week....your employer could force you to work 6 days a week with the extra day unpaid EVERY SINGLE WEEK. I wouldn’t hold my breath for the supposed payout after 3 years.

Right wing Fascist Orban, a man admired by trump supporters, doing what right wing fascists do.

Well then you should be downright upset at China and their actual slave labour. But then again, you might not. It's just left-wing fascist dictator Xi, a man admired by Groper and his supporters, doing what left-wing fascist dictators do.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Also, Hillary has not declared me a security risk; put up tariff barriers to fuck my countries economy to hold a trade deal hostage; and has not used my countries respect for the rule of law to crowbar a different trade deal with China. Hillary does not try to fuck Canada at every opportunity.

But Trump has.

No, that was actually me.

[Thanos]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Tricks Tricks:

Protests about forced labour, but the protests are the problem.

Right!!

Just more lefties who don't want to give businesses free labour.

Nothing new really, what Orban's planning. It's been an old American business method since the founding of the country.



That's where people are making their mistake. There's nothing new under the sun on this planet anymore, among the Great Leaders of the dominant species. It's all as old as time itself. Orban's just not bothering to make pretenses anymore, he's just being more open about things just like Putin or Trump are on the way they operate.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Also, Hillary has not declared me a security risk; put up tariff barriers to fuck my countries economy to hold a trade deal hostage; and has not used my countries respect for the rule of law to crowbar a different trade deal with China. Hillary does not try to fuck Canada at every opportunity.

But Trump has.

The worst thing about a Clinton presidency would have been how boring it was. She would have had her fair share of scandals by now because that's just her own nature. Compared to the daily car-crash hi-lite reel of Trump though? Nah. Would have been as dull as paint drying in comparison. But at least most of the world would still be normal though, instead of under constant seige by a lunatic man-baby.

[martin14]

Thanos Thanos:

It's been an old American business method since the founding of the country.

Almost.

This time it's German.

[N_Fiddledog]

fifeboy fifeboy:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

So registering someone as a "Progressive" isn't the same as calling someone a fascist then.

Glad we straightened that out. No offence or anything but you progressives need to watch your false equivalencies.

Just out of curiosity, perhaps you could point out when I have used the term fascist! It may have happened but I can’t recall when. Waiting for an answer...waiting.
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Sorry...busy.

We were referring to your falsely equating the 2 terms - Fascist and Progressive.

Here ya go:

fifeboy fifeboy:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

More excuses and deflection and apology for fascism.

This is not fascism. And when you and people like you insist on using that word for anyone you don't like then the word loses its meaning.

It would be like if I called you 'contemplative' all the time. After a while the word would lose its original meaning.

You mean like the word progressive? Good point!

You're wrong btw. The term Progressive appears to be increasing in power as something some want to react to. You for example, don't appear ready to leave it be.

[N_Fiddledog]

Although I think the 2 terms may have a kind of similarity in that they both appear to be taking on a new meaning.

Fascist appears to mean anybody who disagrees with a progressive now.

Progressive has taken on the meaning of the kind of people who self identify as such - as opposed to the original definition which they don't even resemble. Today's progressives seem determined to regress.

[Vbeacher]

Thanos Thanos:

Populism has and always will be a cover for a corporatist agenda.

That's simply untrue. And it's hard to describe an idiotic law like this as appealing to populism.

[Tricks]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

$1:

New rules mean companies can demand up to 400 hours of overtime a year and delay payment for it for three years.

In case anyone didn’t do the math an extra 400 hours per year is 7.5 hours a week....your employer could force you to work 6 days a week with the extra day unpaid EVERY SINGLE WEEK. I wouldn’t hold my breath for the supposed payout after 3 years.

Right wing Fascist Orban, a man admired by trump supporters, doing what right wing fascists do.

Well then you should be downright upset at China and their actual slave labour. But then again, you might not. It's just left-wing fascist dictator Xi, a man admired by Groper and his supporters, doing what left-wing fascist dictators do.

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However, Trump offered a more positive assessment during a fundraising event at his Mar-a-Lago estate, where he hosted Xi last April. “He’s now president for life. President for life. And he’s great,” the US president reportedly told Republican donors.

[Thanos]

Vbeacher Vbeacher:

Thanos Thanos:

Populism has and always will be a cover for a corporatist agenda.

That's simply untrue. And it's hard to describe an idiotic law like this as appealing to populism.

Preston Manning kept saying that government should be run like a business. That means (a) he really had no idea what a government is supposed to do (govern, regulate, provide/maintain infrastructure & programs for the collective social good, and all of that is to be kept outside of the capitalistic grasping for profit). And (b) he also genuinely had no idea how badly/incompetently/deviously run most businesses are, and that there's a reason that business ethics and values are kept out of the operation of the state. Preston also never worked at a real job for a shitty & rotten boss in his entire life, that's why he developed these ridiculous fantasies he had about the sanctity and beauty of small-government low-regulation capitalism.

And that was merely mild Reform-era ideas of pro-business populism - Preston wasn't a bad person, he was just a think-tank policy wonk that didn't know what the hell he was talking about. What Orban's doing is the same intellectually, although with a budding authoritarian state at his disposal any Hungarian dissenters can expect a bloody reprisal aimed at them instead of merely being laughed at in parliament. There is also no way in hell that Orban came up with this idea without intense influence peddling and payoffs from the corportate/financial sector in both Hungary and from outside (most likely Russia and the United States).

I stand by what I said. A rigged populism like this is the corporatists ultimate dream. When it happens the interests of the government become identical to the interests of the corporate sector and, as seen practically everywhere else on the planet where this type of capitalism erupts out like a festering infection, it will be to the great sorrow and misery of the local population. If this goes forward then Hungary will be well on it's way to becoming a plutocracy with a massive underclass of neo-serfs being made out of the working and middle classes.