[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

It's one of his favourite features of Bill C-69, gender equity in O&G construction projects as part of the social license umbrella. That you're never ever gonna see a perfect 50/50 split between *cis-men and women/trannies on a pipeline or oilsands project because there simply aren't enough women or trannies to fill half those jobs in an industry that works in harsh conditions seems irrelevant to our government. So let it be written, so let it be done, as all pharaohs assume the world works.

*evil! pure evil! especially if most of them are white!

Nothing in this bill has anything to do with regulating hiring or employment so you’re wrong there.

Then what was the point of including gender equity nonsense in C-69 at all? And why leave other sectors of the economy exempt from it altogether? If it isn't a threat to O&G to dance to the Liberal party's social policies in order to get approvals then why was it included at all? Scare the Western racists/sexists/anti-tranny Neanderthals into co-operation but don't level the same intimidation at the much more "enlightened" Bay Street?

It doesn’t say anything about “gender equity”.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

If you seriously think its ever been the case that everyone starts the race at the same starting point you are naive as fuck.

So tell me something then Mr. Wizard. America led the world to a level of progress civilization had never seen. The poorest westerner has things a middle ages king couldn't dream of. How did that happen? It didn't happen everywhere? It happened in the West.

I say it took a set of ideals where you have the right to the pursuit of happiness among other rights.

You're given gifts at birth - anything from speed or intelligence to rich parents, then you're off. Not every speedy, smart or rich kid makes it but they all start with the right to pursue their happiness providing they recognize their responsibility not to obstruct the rights of others. They start from that starting line.

What would you do? Weight the speedy guy's gym shoes. Make the smart guy take classes from a beaver with a fever? Of course you'd take the rich guy's money but that isn't what made you lucky enough to be born into a world where western ideals created the superior gifts we all enjoy. If you lived by the ideals that made us lucky enough to enjoy the gifts of this advanced civilization what you want to do would put you in jail.

What a load if unintelligible garbage. It’s like you just vomited all over the computer screen.

If you think a rich person and a poor person start life at the same starting line or compete on an equal basis for ANYTHING you are naive as fuck. If you think a black person born in the Jim Crow South started at the same place and had the same opportunities as virtually any white person you are stupid as fuck. If you think a FN person born on a remote fly-in community in the far north, which the government built on floodplain and put the drinking water intake pipe downstream from the sewage outflow pipe you are deluded as fuck.

Your myth of conservative white supermen being handicapped with proverbial “weighted gym shoes” doesn’t happen either it’s just more of your Ayn Randian dystopian fantasy nonsense

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

What a load if unintelligible garbage. It’s like you just vomited all over the computer screen.

Well, of course reason is going to look nuts to a crazy person but maybe you shouldn't call attention to it if that's your problem.

$1:

If you think a rich person and a poor person start at the same starting line you naive as fuck.

Poor little Beave. Stuck in the muck of his indoctrination again.

Give me your little hand then. I'll try to help you out of it again.

In a world where pursuit of happiness and basic rights to the individual defines the game a poor person with good judgement resigned to hard work can become rich. An irrational person resigned to making bad decisions can become poor but either way it doesn't really matter. Being rich or poor wasn't necessarily the goal. In any case, you're still going to do better here than you would in a society where your wealth (what little of it you're allowed to keep) is managed by the state.

[Thanos]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL white person...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

In a world where pursuit of happiness and basic rights to the individual defines the game a poor person with good judgement resigned to hard work can become rich. An irrational person resigned to making bad decisions can become poor but either way it doesn't really matter. Being rich or poor wasn't necessarily the goal.

Like I said NAIVE AS FUCK.

$1:

In any case, you're still going to do better here than you would in a society where your wealth (what little of it you're allowed to keep) is managed by the state.

Nice strawman. But you righties are famous for your straw men.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL white person...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

A white person did not need to be rich or powerful to have more advantages rights and privileges than a black person in the jim crow south. That was actually an intentional fact of law. How have you not heard of segregation?

[llama66]

We're in Canada. Slavery was officially abolished in the United Kingdom and her colonies in 1833. It was pretty much abolished around the revolutionary war. It was an act of Parliament in peacetime, not the act of economic sabotage during a civil war. We didn't have segregation or Jim Crow laws. Keep on target.

[Thanos]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL white person...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

A white person did not need to be rich or powerful to have more advantages rights and privileges than a black person in the jim crow south. That was actually an intentional fact of law. How have you not heard of segregation?

Tell me the advantages white skin gave to me. I was still wiped out by forces beyond my control, including by banks by-and-large run by white men. None of them reached out to me based on skin colour. Having nothing is the same and feels the same whether you're black, white, or other.

[rickc]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL white person...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

A white person did not need to be rich or powerful to have more advantages rights and privileges than a black person in the jim crow south. That was actually an intentional fact of law. How have you not heard of segregation?

Well you might want to take a stroll through the part of the south that I grew up in. Its called Appalachia, and its one big white ghetto. A white ghetto comprised of dilapidated shacks (many without indoor plumbing) and trailers. Towns like Beattyville Kentucky. It is 92.2% white, and the third poorest town in the U.S. Household medium income is $17,179 compared to the U.S. average of $61,372. I seriously doubt that are are in the mood for any lectures about their white privilege. Appalachia is easily the most exploited region of the U.S. The first use of aerial bombing of American civilians occurred at the Battle of Blair Mountain against union coal miners in West Virginian in 1921. White privilege has not stopped the alteration of their landscape and loss of their streams and creeks through mountain top removal mining. Mountain top removal mining extracts the most minerals with the least amount of effort. That decreased amount of effort equates to a decreased amount of jobs in an already impoverished area. White privilege has not stopped their groundwater (as in drinking, bathing, and washing water) from being contaminated with coal slurry.

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Like I said NAIVE AS FUCK.

Keep dreaming wannabe. You wanting something to be true is not the same thing as it being true. How many times do you have to be told that before it sinks in?

There's a reason socialism keeps failing and the only remnant of it that occasionally survives is what's built on a free market.

$1:

Nice strawman. But you righties are famous for your straw men.

I wish you would learn what a strawman actually was. Hint: What you wanted to be one, wasn't. Seriously Beave I can't even point and laugh at you anymore. It stopped being funny. I'm getting embarrassed for you.

[N_Fiddledog]

rickc rickc:

Well you might want to take a stroll through the part of the south that I grew up in. Its called Appalachia, and its one big white ghetto.

Ever see Winter's Bone? Early Jennifer Lawrence?

Not sure if that's Appalachia or Ozarks. Pretty much illustrates your point either way though.

[N_Fiddledog]

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL Democrats...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

Fixed it for both of you. Beave keeps forgetting, Jim Crow laws were a Democrat creation.

[BeaverFever]

Thanos Thanos:

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We’re talking about the segregationist south. Are you unaware of what that is?

There are certain DISADVANTAGES to being black that you’ve never had to worry about, like being forced to sit in the back of the bus, getting arrested for using the wrong water fountain or walking into a restaurant that doesn’t serve your kind, or being denied basic rights or access to basic public services.

Even today as we saw in the Georgia election they still try “legal” means of limiting the rights of black people. And as a white person you’re not subject to routine police detention for no reason having those frequent police interactions be lufe-threatening incidents. How often do you hear about white gius getting gunned down by police for reaching for their wallets?

[BeaverFever]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Thanos Thanos:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

... as virtually any RICH and POWERFUL Democrats...

Corrected that for you. Quit blaming all of us for the malice of those who oppressed and treated other white people like garbage as much as they did to those from the other races.

Fixed it for both of you. Beave keeps forgetting, Jim Crow laws were a Democrat creation.

Then those Democrats were expelled from the party and became Republicans

[BeaverFever]

rickc rickc:

Well you might want to take a stroll through the part of the south that I grew up in. Its called Appalachia, and its one big white ghetto. A white ghetto comprised of dilapidated shacks (many without indoor plumbing) and trailers. Towns like Beattyville Kentucky. It is 92.2% white, and the third poorest town in the U.S. Household medium income is $17,179 compared to the U.S. average of $61,372. I seriously doubt that are are in the mood for any lectures about their white privilege. Appalachia is easily the most exploited region of the U.S. The first use of aerial bombing of American civilians occurred at the Battle of Blair Mountain against union coal miners in West Virginian in 1921. White privilege has not stopped the alteration of their landscape and loss of their streams and creeks through mountain top removal mining. Mountain top removal mining extracts the most minerals with the least amount of effort. That decreased amount of effort equates to a decreased amount of jobs in an already impoverished area. White privilege has not stopped their groundwater (as in drinking, bathing, and washing water) from being contaminated with coal slurry.

I’ve been through Appalachia, But it’s irrelevant. I didn’t say there are no poor white people.Blacks in segregationist Appalachia had it even worse than the whites.