[ridenrain]

Chretien was the most crooked PM in recent history. He had no quams about using the PMO and the RCMP as his personal army.. and that's wrong. No matter how progressive you are. Just because he's on you're side does not make it right.

Dion was unelectable because he was ideoliogically rigid, stuborn, and his oration simply couldnt sell to most of Canada.

Out of all recent Libeal PM's, my least favorite was Martin. He was a dithering finance minister who overachieved but he was very good with money, although not with morals AND money.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Chretien was the most crooked PM in recent history. He had no quams about using the PMO and the RCMP as his personal army.. and that's wrong. No matter how progressive you are. Just because he's on you're side does not make it right.

Dion was unelectable because he was ideoliogically rigid, stuborn, and his oration simply couldnt sell to most of Canada.

Out of all recent Libeal PM's, my least favorite was Martin. He was a dithering finance minister who overachieved but he was very good with money, although not with morals AND money.

Ride, you could use a new one of these:

[ridenrain]

I didn't know I was being so rude..

[snuggles61]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Chretien was the most crooked PM in recent history. He had no quams about using the PMO and the RCMP as his personal army.. and that's wrong. No matter how progressive you are. Just because he's on you're side does not make it right.

Dion was unelectable because he was ideoliogically rigid, stuborn, and his oration simply couldnt sell to most of Canada.

Out of all recent Libeal PM's, my least favorite was Martin. He was a dithering finance minister who overachieved but he was very good with money, although not with morals AND money.

Funny thing,the only viable leader the liberals ever had was John Turner and yes I totally agree with your assessment that chretien was the most corrupt PM in history. The only thing that made Trudeau popular is he was able to project this refreshingly outrageous image of being his own man by basically thumbing his nose at the USA. The liberals are pretty screwed now since any viable candidate for PM (Bob Rae) totally endorsed that pipsqueak Dion. Interesting how the liberals can make the most outrageous blunders and then not even have the integrity to owe up to it. Im just glad that in my 30 years of voting power Ive never once voted liberal

[DerbyX]

Chretien was a great man. Only conservative hacks without ethics of their own dispute that. He was the right man for the time and did a better job then anybody good have hoped. Unlike harper, who is doing everything possible to stop any investigation into his bribe attempt, Chretien and Martin called for and faced a very public and thorough investigation and were exonerated.

The Liberals carried the day while the conservatives shirked in the willows and as the recent election showed, the cons have yet to convince Canada they deserve the brass ring.

Alot of bitching and crying from people who haven't got the faintest idea how to run a country and are far more corrupt (I'm looking at you RR) then any Liberal will ever be is getting really really old.

Chretien won the Order of Canada and is remembered as the man who saved Canada from bankruptcy.

Sorry for your luck rr.

[ridenrain]

Good old Dion-Derby. Never can say anything bad against the Liberals can you?

$1:

But Senator David Smith (perhaps unwittingly) summed up the reason for the feigned Liberal solidarity strategy:

When a reporter asked Senator David Smith what other issues besides leadership the caucus needed to discuss, he gave her a long, quizzical look.

"Get back in government," Smith finally responded.

There's you're Liberal party vision.
Naked greed for power.

[uwish]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Chretien was a great man. Only conservative hacks without ethics of their own dispute that. He was the right man for the time and did a better job then anybody good have hoped. Unlike harper, who is doing everything possible to stop any investigation into his bribe attempt, Chretien and Martin called for and faced a very public and thorough investigation and were exonerated.

The Liberals carried the day while the conservatives shirked in the willows and as the recent election showed, the cons have yet to convince Canada they deserve the brass ring.

again, another short liberal memory, do you not remember adscam? how many billion dollar boondoggles under crooked face and dithers watch?

such short memories

[Zipperfish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Chretien was the most crooked PM in recent history. He had no quams about using the PMO and the RCMP as his personal army..

OK, just for your future consideration, PMO stands for Prime Minister's Office. So if Chreiten treated teh PMO as if he owned it, well, that's kind of what he was supposed to do.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Good old Dion-Derby. Never can say anything bad against the Liberals can you?

$1:

But Senator David Smith (perhaps unwittingly) summed up the reason for the feigned Liberal solidarity strategy:

When a reporter asked Senator David Smith what other issues besides leadership the caucus needed to discuss, he gave her a long, quizzical look.

"Get back in government," Smith finally responded.

There's you're Liberal party vision.
Naked greed for power.

Sure thing ridenhack or shall we add ans a new one? ridendelusional.

We already have ridencrybaby or do we?

Of course you never ever ever address your parties lack of ethics or solidarity eh? You never talk about how they butchered each other with back room politics when they fractured the PC party. Of course the reform party wasn't nearly as corrupt and racist enough so they formed the alliance.

Then because they all knew they would never again ascend to the PMO they feigned a unite the right campaign designed to make every ignore their "say whatever it takes" ethics to het elected.

We aren't being fooled though as your lack of a majority shows quite well.

Sorry for your luck.

[fifeboy]

ridenrain ridenrain:

I didn't know I was being so rude..

Another one of Rides holy relics is being proven again today. I wonder if ride is listening to the CBC this fine morning. If he is, he will hear the very LIBERAL and LEFT David Frum as host of that flagship of anti-Americanism The Current. I have to admit it ride, you were right, we only get pro-Liberal, anti-American, left wing and socialist material on the CBC. This show is the final proof.

By the way, if you are not a regular with the Current, you can pick it up on the Pod.

[DerbyX]

uwish uwish:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Chretien was a great man. Only conservative hacks without ethics of their own dispute that. He was the right man for the time and did a better job then anybody good have hoped. Unlike harper, who is doing everything possible to stop any investigation into his bribe attempt, Chretien and Martin called for and faced a very public and thorough investigation and were exonerated.

The Liberals carried the day while the conservatives shirked in the willows and as the recent election showed, the cons have yet to convince Canada they deserve the brass ring.

again, another short liberal memory, do you not remember adscam? how many billion dollar boondoggles under crooked face and dithers watch?

such short memories

Short on memory indeed. I recall Martin brining about the most public and thorough investigation, one that exonerrated him and Chretien.

Harper on the other hand continues to silence every MP and make every attempt to block or discredit the investigation into his bribe attempt.

Its quite clear who the crooks are and they wear blue.

[bootlegga]

fifeboy fifeboy:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I didn't know I was being so rude..

Another one of Rides holy relics is being proven again today. I wonder if ride is listening to the CBC this fine morning. If he is, he will hear the very LIBERAL and LEFT David Frum as host of that flagship of anti-Americanism The Current. I have to admit it ride, you were right, we only get pro-Liberal, anti-American, left wing and socialist material on the CBC. This show is the final proof.

By the way, if you are not a regular with the Current, you can pick it up on the Pod.

I was listening this morning, it was very interesting.

[ridenrain]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Short on memory indeed. I recall Martin brining about the most public and thorough investigation, one that exonerrated him and Chretien.

Is that why Chretien is still fighting to change the Gomery findings? What.. does he want another order of Canada for stealing taxpayers money to hand it to the Liberal party? He's so worried about his reputation he's hiding everything he can. Too bad that reputation is going to be written by the Conservatives in power.

Zip: I know that PMO stands for PM's office but it's not his personal police, it's still the taxpayers property. Chretien ruled like a tyrant and the fact that you folks can say nothing bad about it shows how blind you are.

Again: The Friendly Dictatorship by Jeffrey Simpson.

Not the crap he wrote himself but what others wrote about him has already sealed his legacy of corruption.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

DerbyX DerbyX:

Short on memory indeed. I recall Martin brining about the most public and thorough investigation, one that exonerrated him and Chretien.

Is that why Chretien is still fighting to change the Gomery findings? What.. does he want another order of Canada for stealing taxpayers money to hand it to the Liberal party? He's so worried about his reputation he's hiding everything he can. Too bad that reputation is going to be written by the Conservatives in power.

Zip: I know that PMO stands for PM's office but it's not his personal police, it's still the taxpayers property. Chretien ruled like a tyrant and the fact that you folks can say nothing bad about it shows how blind you are.

Again: The Friendly Dictatorship by Jeffrey Simpson.

Not the crap he wrote himself but what others wrote about him has already sealed his legacy of corruption.

Gomery exonerrated him and Martin. Tough tuck eh!

You can keep crying all you want but that won't change a damn thing about you being a dishonest hack calling everybody else corrupt in ignorance of his own.

Quoting some hack book by another anti-Liberal means nothing.

[StuntmanMike]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Good old Dion-Derby. Never can say anything bad against the Liberals can you?

$1:

But Senator David Smith (perhaps unwittingly) summed up the reason for the feigned Liberal solidarity strategy:

When a reporter asked Senator David Smith what other issues besides leadership the caucus needed to discuss, he gave her a long, quizzical look.

"Get back in government," Smith finally responded.

There's you're Liberal party vision.
Naked greed for power.

What's wrong with that? The goal of all serious political parties is to form government. That's the whole purpose of having a political party. I don't see why a leading Liberal should be crticized for stating that. It's like excoriating the Cheif Executive Officer of IBM for saying his company's goal is to make money.