[ShepherdsDog]

Canadian family DID NOT apply to sponsor them, so how are we even partially responsible? It's interesting that CBC has now changed the spelling of his name from Aylan to Alan....was this a typo or an attempt to pull at our heart strings even further?

[OnTheIce]

and the crowd goes......quiet. Nothing sensational here...besides the media and political parties looking to score points.

[Strutz]

If there hadn't been a photographer at that spot at that time this picture wouldn't even exist. The news story, if there was one, would have been that yet another boat sank while trying to reach European shores and lives were lost. So many have died while trying to escape this region, including children, but their names and stories will never be known to the world. They would just be part of the ever-increasing numbers.

Oh yeah, the media is hyping this up alright and focusing on it while emotions are still running high. "We must do more" was repeated so many times in just a few minutes on the news tonight. What we must do was never specified just that "we" need to do it.

Don't get me wrong, it's awful that these two little ones had to die in such a terrible way. Human suffering and children dying far too young is happening in a lot of places all over the world right now and has been for a long time. You just don't hear their names or see pictures of their innocent faces.

[BRAH]

Strutz Strutz:

If there hadn't been a photographer at that spot at that time this picture wouldn't even exist. The news story, if there was one, would have been that yet another boat sank while trying to reach European shores and lives were lost. So many have died while trying to escape this region, including children, but their names and stories will never be known to the world. They would just be part of the ever-increasing numbers.

Oh yeah, the media is hyping this up alright and focusing on it while emotions are still running high. "We must do more" was repeated so many times in just a few minutes on the news tonight. What we must do was never specified just that "we" need to do it.

Don't get me wrong, it's awful that these two little ones had to die in such a terrible way. Human suffering and children dying far too young is happening in a lot of places all over the world right now and has been for a long time. You just don't hear their names or see pictures of their innocent faces.

Elements from the Left who suffer from HDS (No CKA members) and the Canadian Media are trying to blame Harper for this and it's going to blow up in their face.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Liberals are always against war unless they're the ones starting it.

Just like they were regarding the mission in Afghanistan, soon as they were no longer in power they were against it.

[N_Fiddledog]

[martin14]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

They asked for refuge, we ignored them.

We had a little to do with that.

QBall QBall:

Apparently the family never applied for asylum in Canada.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e26213820/

Family of drowned boy did not apply for asylum: Ottawa

So Doc, can we climb down from the guilt train now please ?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Liberals are always against war unless they're the ones starting it.

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

martin14 martin14:

Yes but the last time the West did something was Libya.

Look how well that turned out.

Actually . . . the last time it did something would be 'Ukraine'.

That would be more like "didn't do anything", rather than something.

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

It's interesting that CBC has now changed the spelling of his name from Aylan to Alan....was this a typo or an attempt to pull at our heart strings even further?

I read somewhere Aylan is Turkish spelling, and the boy was a Kurd. But Alan is nice and Western spelling, I'm sure we'll see that again.

Strutz Strutz:

Oh yeah, the media is hyping this up alright and focusing on it while emotions are still running high. "We must do more" was repeated so many times in just a few minutes on the news tonight. What we must do was never specified just that "we" need to do it.

The media worldwide was hyping the crap out of this, all the same message, all the same emotional blackmail.
It was a little scary to watch, the whole world being bombed with the same propaganda.

[Thanos]

Media says that the Turkish authorities spelt the name wrong and the family says that the kid's proper name really was Alan.

[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

They asked for refuge, we ignored them.

We had a little to do with that.

QBall QBall:

Apparently the family never applied for asylum in Canada.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat ... e26213820/

Family of drowned boy did not apply for asylum: Ottawa

So Doc, can we climb down from the guilt train now please ?

Since when did you climb on it?

They may not have properly applied for asylum, but the sister still got her MP to deliver a letter to the Minister of Immigration asking they be granted refugee status.

Does it really matter that these kids and their Mom didn't have the proper paperwork before they drowned in the Med? Does that make it any less sad?

[OnTheIce]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Since when did you climb on it?

They may not have properly applied for asylum, but the sister still got her MP to deliver a letter to the Minister of Immigration asking they be granted refugee status.

Does it really matter that these kids and their Mom didn't have the proper paperwork before they drowned in the Med? Does that make it any less sad?

Yes, it matters.

The sister got into Canada. She knows the process.

People ask MP's things all the time. It's a non-stop process. I've been in an MP's office when a resident came bursting into the office demanding that we pay for his rent.

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

They may not have properly applied for asylum, but the sister still got her MP to deliver a letter to the Minister of Immigration asking they be granted refugee status.

The sister asked for refugee status for her other brother and his family, not the ones who jumped into the rowboat.

[DrCaleb]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

They may not have properly applied for asylum, but the sister still got her MP to deliver a letter to the Minister of Immigration asking they be granted refugee status.

The sister asked for refugee status for her other brother and his family, not the ones who jumped into the rowboat.

$1:

Donnelly said he gave a letter to Immigration Minister Chris Alexander on her behalf, asking that both of her brothers and their families be granted refugee status in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3214517

Due to money constraints, she could only afford to sponsor one.

[andyt]

The fact the boy had family in Canada willing to take them in brings the story home to Canadians. Individually the govt is not the bad guy here. But, Immigration Canada underspent its budget by 100 million last year, with 25 million of that allocated to refugee settlement. The govt has been dragging its feet in meeting the obligations it committed to, and until this tragedy nobody really paid attention. Now, of course, we'll probably get announcements about what wonderful things the govt is planning to do for Syrian refugees.

But Harper is right that we can't solve this problem by taking in refugees, there are far too many for the world to handle. He's full of shit tho when he claims that his bombing ISIS (and civilians) is what solves this problem either.

[ShepherdsDog]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

They may not have properly applied for asylum, but the sister still got her MP to deliver a letter to the Minister of Immigration asking they be granted refugee status.

The sister asked for refugee status for her other brother and his family, not the ones who jumped into the rowboat.

$1:

Donnelly said he gave a letter to Immigration Minister Chris Alexander on her behalf, asking that both of her brothers and their families be granted refugee status in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-c ... -1.3214517

Due to money constraints, she could only afford to sponsor one.

and you should finish it with

$1:

Nothing happened, despite an inquiry from Alexander's staff, according to Donnelly.

When asked for clarification, Kurdi confirmed the letter to Alexander specifically pertained to her brother Mohammed's application for refugee status, adding that she had intended to submit an application for Abdullah and his family next.

had the brother waited, in what was a safe place, there is the chance she may have submitted the application and they could have eventually made it to Canada. Instead he took an unnecessary risk/gamble, which unfortunately cost him his family.

[Zipperfish]

BRAH BRAH:

Strutz Strutz:

If there hadn't been a photographer at that spot at that time this picture wouldn't even exist. The news story, if there was one, would have been that yet another boat sank while trying to reach European shores and lives were lost. So many have died while trying to escape this region, including children, but their names and stories will never be known to the world. They would just be part of the ever-increasing numbers.

Oh yeah, the media is hyping this up alright and focusing on it while emotions are still running high. "We must do more" was repeated so many times in just a few minutes on the news tonight. What we must do was never specified just that "we" need to do it.

Don't get me wrong, it's awful that these two little ones had to die in such a terrible way. Human suffering and children dying far too young is happening in a lot of places all over the world right now and has been for a long time. You just don't hear their names or see pictures of their innocent faces.

Elements from the Left who suffer from HDS (No CKA members) and the Canadian Media are trying to blame Harper for this and it's going to blow up in their face.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Liberals are always against war unless they're the ones starting it.

Just like they were regarding the mission in Afghanistan, soon as they were no longer in power they were against it.

Then there's the CPS (Conservative Paranoia Syndrome). When they see facts they don't like they balme the "biased MSM" (despite the fact that virtually every newspaper in Canada backed the Conservatives in the last two elections).

Temperature warming up? VBlame the scientists.

The funny thing is that, despite alll the rhetoric about conservatism being about personal accountability, they are the biggest victim-whiners on the planet.

[Zipperfish]

Thanos Thanos:

Media says that the Turkish authorities spelt the name wrong and the family says that the kid's proper name really was Alan.

That's what they'd have you believe. IN actual fact, left-wing liberal media moguls like Conrad Black and Rupert Murdoch gathered secretly last night in Switzerland to discuss how they could exploit this photo in order to make the Prime Minister of Canada look bad. Oh, and the scientists were there too. And the grey aliens.