[herbie]

[N_Fiddledog]

Me I just think it's an interesting lawsuit. Although I do think they have a case.

Some of you though, whooooo...what's with the frantic denial? Now that's what's nuts.

I worry what you're going to do if the parents win.

Will you be all right?

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

Some of you seem so frantic in denial of these Parents' lawsuit.

I worry what you're going to do if they win.

You have already shown your cards. This isn't for you about whether they brought the Lawsuit or not.

They won't "win" either. Sorry.

[N_Fiddledog]

sandorski sandorski:

They won't "win" either. Sorry.

I think you want to wait until the case is tried and rely on something more than wishful thinking.

It's possible you might have more to apologize for than you think.

Except I notice when you actually do have something to apologize for you never do.

[N_Fiddledog]

If the parents can prove some of the things they're claiming I'd have to agree with them. They do look to have a case under the protection of the first and fourteenth amendment.

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Not only did the district refuse permission for C.W. to opt out of the religious assignments, it imposed grades of zero. Further, the complaint says, the district disparaged Christianity in multiple ways, including the statement, “Most Muslims’ faith is stronger than the average Christian.” The district taught that the West engages in “imperialistic pursuits” and insists “men are the managers of women.”

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Her world history class spent one day on Christianity and two weeks immersed in Islam. Such discriminatory treatment of Christianity is an unconstitutional promotion of one religion over another,” said Thomas More Law Center President Richard Thompson.

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

They won't "win" either. Sorry.

I think you want to wait until the case is tried and rely on something more than wishful thinking.

It's possible you might have more to apologize for than you think.

Except I notice when you actually do have something to apologize for you never do.

The wishful thinking here, as per usual, is yours.

[N_Fiddledog]

sandorski sandorski:

The wishful thinking here, as per usual, is yours.

Prove it. Offer something more than just that.

Produce some support for why you don't think the parents have a case.

I've shown you mine. Show me yours. So to speak.

But speaking of wishful thinking...that is all you've got again, isn't it?

[sandorski]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

The wishful thinking here, as per usual, is yours.

Prove it. Offer something more than just that.

Produce some support for why you don't think the parents have a case.

I've shown you mine. Show me yours. So to speak.

But speaking of wishful thinking...that is all you've got again, isn't it?

Once again, we'll see how wrong you are. Just wait for it.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

The parents are right.

According to Google's headline on the search How to become a Muslim:

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One may convert alone in privacy, or he/she may do so in the presence of others. If anyone has a real desire to be a Muslim and has full conviction and strong belief that Islam is the true religion of God, then, all one needs to do is pronounce the "Shahada", the testimony of faith, without further delay.Jun 17, 2012

The key part here:

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all one needs to do is pronounce the "Shahada"

In most Sharia-compliant nations this girl is now a Moslem and she is eligible for the death penalty if she decides to quit that evil, Moloch-worshipping cult.

[BeaverFever]

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In most Sharia-compliant nations this girl is now a Moslem and she is eligible for the death penalty if she decides to quit that evil, Moloch-worshipping cult.

No, they would have to actually mean it. You can't just trick people into becoming Muslim by getting them to say some words that they don't know the meaning/consequences of.

[N_Fiddledog]

sandorski sandorski:

Once again, we'll see how wrong you are. Just wait for it.

How does Progressive magic think work anyway? Do you like close your eyes, clench your fists, click your heels and recite over and over again, "I do believe, I do believe, I do, I do, I do believe..."

You don't support an argument with facts. I know that.

[OnTheIce]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

sandorski sandorski:

The wishful thinking here, as per usual, is yours.

Prove it. Offer something more than just that.

Produce some support for why you don't think the parents have a case.

I've shown you mine. Show me yours. So to speak.

But speaking of wishful thinking...that is all you've got again, isn't it?

You haven't proven anything yourself beyond the obvious. You're a nut job.

As a child, my parents made me participate in Christmas celebrations at the local church and amazingly enough, it didn't make me a Christian.

Learning about religion or pretending to be in a religion isn't "forcing" anyone to be anything.

It's equally funny to see the "news" outlets reporting on the story. Nut-job central!

[N_Fiddledog]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

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In most Sharia-compliant nations this girl is now a Moslem and she is eligible for the death penalty if she decides to quit that evil, Moloch-worshipping cult.

No, they would have to actually mean it. You can't just trick people into becoming Muslim by getting them to say some words that they don't know the meaning/consequences of.

That's what I think too. There has to be more than just the recitation. Because if there wasn't I've seen all kinds of counter-jihadis quote the Shahada. Wouldn't Obama have had to quote the Shahada when he was educated in Madrasas in Indonesia?

On the other hand I saw this video where an Imam was delivering a sermon on how much more clever Muslims were than Kufar.

He told this story about how a Muslim lived next door to a Jew and the Jew was a drunk. One day the Jew was complaining to the Muslim about his problems and how he couldn't stop drinking. So the Muslim told him "That's easy. Just become a Muslim and you'll stop drinking. It's magic."

The Jew did. He said the Shahada in front of his neighbor and became a Muslim. The Jew said, "But something's wrong. I still want to drink."

The Muslim told him, "You can't drink. You're a Muslim now. If you drink we'll kill you."

After telling his story about the Jewish drunk and his Muslim neighbor the Iman on the video broke out into chuckles and marveled at how clever the Muslim was in his story.

He seemed to think all the Jew had to do to become a Muslim was say the Shahada in front of a witness.

But that's just a story.

[N_Fiddledog]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

You haven't proven anything yourself beyond the obvious. You're a nut job.

But that's the thing, all you and yours have offered so far have been your usual fallback position of snotty smears, and slurs. The parents are suing. That's a fact. If you're calling facts insanity you're an idiot.

Are the parents claims facts? I don't know but it does appear to be a fact that they are making such claims in their Lawsuit.

It gets a little more twitchy when you get into what the facts suggest.

However, I suggest if the girl really was (as the parents claim) forced to memorize and repeat statements like “Most Muslims’ faith is stronger than the average Christian.” under penalty of a Zero grade if she did not comply then one faith is being forced upon her in that such memes would be designed to subvert the other faith she follows.

They also claim their daughter was forced to devote at least 10 times the amount of time to inculcating such requisites of this foreign faith into her mind over that of her own.

Show me how their claims are not factually correct or show me how the first and fourteen amendments do not apply.

You're going to have offer something more than the Regressive-Progressive technique of magic think where you want a thing to be true so it becomes true, but only in your mind. Nowhere in the real world.

Because quite frankly that sort of thinking is nuts.

[N_Fiddledog]

Actually what the Mail reports is:

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John Wood, a former Marine, and his wife Melissa Wood, have filed a civil rights complaint against La Plata High School, alleging their daughter - identified only as C.W. - spent one day in a modern history class studying Christianity, followed by two weeks immersed in Islam.

I'm assuming an American "civil rights complaint" is the same thing as a lawsuit because they also use that term elsewhere in the article. Is that not correct. Are they not the same?

The local radio station reports:

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WASHINGTON — A Maryland couple is suing Charles County Schools in federal court after objecting to their daughter’s world history lesson involving Islam.

The lawsuit filed last week by Michigan-based Thomas More Law Center on behalf of John Kevin and Melissa Wood names Charles County schools, its board, and the principal and vice principal of La Plata High School as defendants.

In the court documents, the Woods allege their daughter was forced to profess and write out the Islamic Creed in her world history class as part of an assignment.

The school did not allow the girl to opt out of the lesson and receive alternative assignments on the basis of religious beliefs, according to the suit — which says that policy is still in practice at Charles County Schools.

http://wtop.com/charles-county/2016/01/ ... ool-staff/

Fox reports:

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Maryland residents Melissa and John Wood are suing Charles County Public Schools over what they say was "promotion of Islam" in a World History class.

According to court documents obtained by fox5dc.com, the Wood's lawsuit states that their daughter's constitutional rights were violated by a section on Islam taught in her World History class.


The lawsuit alleges that Charles County Public Schools "concealed that their high school World History class promoted Islam" by failing to mention the Islam lesson in a course syllabus and through the use of a separate textbook, kept on school grounds, which "extensively covered Islam."

The Wood's daughter, who is referred to as C.W. in the suit because she is a minor, was allegedly removed from the course and issued failing grades on her assignments because she "refused to deny and insult her Christian beliefs" by participating in activities that she believed affirmed that Muslims hold stronger faith convictions than Christians.

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/83461841-story