[Newsbot]

Title: Rob Ford's approval rating plummets in new poll
Category: Political
Posted By: BeaverFever
Date: 2011-09-14 09:14:47
Canadian

[BeaverFever]

did I call this or what?

[andyt]

SOP - people don't want to pay taxes, but want the services those taxes buy. What they should be focusing on is a fairer tax system, but instead they always follow some numbnuts like this and then mewl about it when his promises don't come true.

[OnTheIce]

Shows how out of touch Toronto residents are.

They don't know their head from their ass.

[BeaverFever]

...At least the people who voted for this guy dont. But they elected one of their own so it figures.

[mentalfloss]

Hear hear!

Hopefully this lowers conservative talk radio ratings as well.

[andyt]

Nah, those are the hardcore frothers. They'll always be there, but they don't amount to much. Hopefully the swing voters who put this guy in are getting a wake up slap in the face. But it sounds like Ford could fuck up your city for ever with this waterfront deal. Once it's gone, it's gone. Good luck with that.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Nah, those are the hardcore frothers. They'll always be there, but they don't amount to much. Hopefully the swing voters who put this guy in are getting a wake up slap in the face. But it sounds like Ford could fuck up your city for ever with this waterfront deal. Once it's gone, it's gone. Good luck with that.

Yea, like Toronto's waterfront is some jewel. It's a pile of dirt an unused land.

Keep spending yourself into the poor house Toronto....who gives a shit about debt!

[andyt]

Waterfront is precious, they're not making it anymore. You want to leave a lasting legacy for something like that, not just sell it to the developers to make a buck.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Waterfront is precious, they're not making it anymore. You want to leave a lasting legacy for something like that, not just sell it to the developers to make a buck.

Andy, you don't have a clue.

It's been a shit-hole for the last 50 years. It's been a place where people drive to dump garbage illegally or have sex in their cars because it's deserted.

Waterfront Toronto's plan is to sell off a ton of land to developers for condo's and retail space anyways.

Different visions by different people.

[fifeboy]

andyt andyt:

Waterfront is precious, they're not making it anymore. You want to leave a lasting legacy for something like that, not just sell it to the developers to make a buck.

I'd give you a more lasting legacy of +points if I could.

[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

Waterfront is precious, they're not making it anymore. You want to leave a lasting legacy for something like that, not just sell it to the developers to make a buck.

Andy, you don't have a clue.

It's been a shit-hole for the last 50 years. It's been a place where people drive to dump garbage illegally or have sex in their cars because it's deserted.

Waterfront Toronto's plan is to sell off a ton of land to developers for condo's and retail space anyways.

Different visions by different people.

No, not for condos and retail space...there will be some of that, but there will be parks, recreation areas, a conservation area, and more. The whole point is to clean up the shit-hole.

You can build a mall anywhere on the earth..why the hell would you build one on the on scarce lakeshore land, where everyone is going to be primarily indoors and unable to even see the lake. They'll be buying things from chain stores that are already located all over the city anyways.

The difference between Ford's plan and the current is that Ford wants to turn it into a disney land for people who live somewhere else, and not even a good one at that that, as opposed to a living space for people who live in the city. So instead of a mega mall, the current plan includes "community retail" ie grocery stores, small, local shops, etc. Instead of luxury hotel that you can fly a jetpack into or whatever the hell else Ford dreams up, the current plan calls for moderate density mixed-income residential communities, live-work lofts, ample park lands,conservation areas, etc.

[eureka]

I have always approved of Ford. I think he is the best standup comedian I have seen in years.

He is, sadly, the prime example of several in Canada at this time of why democracy does not work well. Voters are easily seduced by unrealistic promises of tax cuts that will not hurt society and by raising fantasy demons to slay.

We saw it with Harris and the Ontario wrecking crew. We saw it with Harper and the same wrecking crew expanded. We see it with a softer sell in Hudak.

[BartSimpson]

eureka eureka:

He is, sadly, the prime example of several in Canada at this time of why democracy does not work well.

What do you propose that would work better than the democracy you have?

[eureka]

I don't propose anything that would work better. I don't think there is. But perhaps there should be some mandatory requirements and qualifications for the possession of the Right to vote.

Mandatory attendance at forums that discuss the issues in any campaign?

Heck, maybe Mill was correct in musing about the number of votes related to education levels. I have met many educated twits but it would certainly cut into Right Wing Republican electoral support in your country and into the CPC here.