llama66 llama66:
Fighter Fighter:
Unbelievable....
Pakistanis absolutely stand with you, Sri Lankans.
We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE.....
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A team of Pakistani forensic experts will leave for Sri Lanka to help Colombo authorities identify the victims of Easter explosions.
At least 290 people were killed in a series of bomb blasts that tore through churches and luxury hotels in Sri Lanka on Sunday, in the worst violence to hit the island since its devastating civil war ended a decade ago.
Related story: Explosion in Sri Lanka as police try to defuse bomb
Eight apparently co-ordinated explosions targeted Easter worshippers and high end hotels popular with international guests.
The University of Health Sciences had offered to help Sri Lankan authorities in identifying the victims. Sri Lanka accepted the offer and a team, led by Dr Humayun Taimoor, will leave for Colombo to assist the officials.
https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/04/pakistani-forensic-experts-to-help-sri-lanka-identify-blast-victims/As usual...people over here getting idiots as if they were not already.
One member said: Crusades will begin.
He didn't remember Crusade when Iraq was invaded and thousands of Muslims civilians got killed in baseless brutal war.
Relax...Crusades won't begin. That is one enough humiliation for Christians in history. I doubt they'll repeat that.
I have a name. I remember another crusade where a bunch of cowards hijacked some planes and thousands of Innocent people died in a baseless and brutal cowardly attack. This also was a cowardly attack, as was the attacks in Paris, Nice, Amsterdam, Madrid, London, Mumbai, Sydney, Ottawa, San Bernidino, Moscow, Cairo, Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Munich, and Bali amongst innumerable other cities around the globe.
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“The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling expedients, of delays is coming to its close. In its place we are entering a period of consequences.”
― Winston S. Churchill
The consequence of the pandering and appeasement is the same as the last time we pandered and appeased; its war.
You're not interested in policing these people so we'll do it for you... a great many will die because the moderates failed to speak; failed to act.
For the record, the Crusades today would go a bit differently than the crusades of Thousand years ago. We didn't have the proper motivation then.
Right...You have been trying to police Afghans for years.....End result? Americans are begging Pakistanis to help them in withdrawal or peace deal with Afghans.
You and your North American buddies are absolutely clueless guys. You don't know how to deal with the other side. You know why? Because you don't know the other side.
Only few on your side understand situation...They understand geopolitics and dirt it involves within.
By the way, I like this fact that your history always begin with 9/11......You don't know what happened before it?
Names like Menachem Begin, Irugun and Hagannah should ring a bell. They were fucking part of Israeli Leadership....who can forget King David hotel bombing? were perpetrators Muslim? NOPE.....
"The terror attack on the King David Hotel in Jerusalem was in its day the equivalent of the Twin Towers," wrote historian Tom Segev in 2006, after Benjamin Netanyahu had taken center stage at a commemoration celebrating the 60th anniversary of the attack. Years later, Segev would call it, "at the time the most lethal terrorist attack in history."
The blast, which levelled six floors of a wing of the hotel with 350 kilograms of explosive, killed 91 people, all but 16 of them civilians. Most of the dead were British government staffers or hotel employees. There were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Jews, two Armenians, one Russian, one Greek and one Egyptian.
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-zionism-s-terrorist-heritage-1.6217633
Who can forget Bush and tony blair, who are still roaming free in their respective countries...Did you ask them? for what they have done?
Children died due to sanctions and your minister said...it's worth it.
Should I go back to World War 2?......where whole world saw how to gas people in chambers...how to drop bombs on civilian population? No matter how much crime and evil my side does.....we will NEVER match you in terms of darkness and barbarity.
You know what is difference b/w my side and your side? my side has unorganized decentralized bunch of mad people, who are not in power while on your side.....apart from street walking random jerks, assholes sitting in fuking governments.
hmm....you were talking about Crusades on these murderer assholes? I don't mind it......I thought you were going against Muslims as a community since Crusades were launched against Muslim community.
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Please, you can't even eradicate the dogshit that swirls around in your own country. Until nations like Pakistan start to make a concerted effort to stamp out this disease... it will continue to operate, grow and commit crimes with impunity. You must combat the terror within your own nation, how can you help others if you can't help yourself?
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That's nice he tweeted "Happy Easter". It couldn't be Pakistan, then. Oh wait... It just means Khan may not be a douche others are. Deeds, not words.
If Khan wants to show support, he'll root out the extremists in his government and make examples of them, but I think if he does that.. it's political suicide.
Tell me, what about the bloc of losers that wanted to kill Ms. Bibi, do you think they want Christians to have a happy Easter?
Fighter, you may not harbour ill-will towards Christians, but many in your country do (Not only in Pakistan, but every Muslim nation). Simply because some ass-backwards Imam has told them that the fictitious sky god wants people of your faith to kill or convert the non-believers. As long a morons believe these asshats are right, there will be violence.
Now, for these 300; some innocent Muslims somewhere else will die at the hands of a Christian who's had enough and this will continue until someone "takes it to the next level".
Pakistanis have resisted what no other could have....Our neighbor was on fire constantly and hence we continued to face repercussions until for few years.
We are now standing at borders....Cleansing has been done from within. Tourists are returning back. and we are focusing on economy now. We have defeated terrorism.
Religious radicals, along with Asia case's protesting guys tasted Jail...
https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2019/01/22/tlp-leaders-including-rizvi-sent-to-jail-on-14-day-judicial-remand/...No any terror cell operate in Pakistan more than any terror cell operating in Canada or Australia or Sri Lanka....Terror incidents can happen anywhere and assholes live in each country of this planet.
Radicals who have hatred for others, live everywhere; Australia, US, Sri Lanka, Pakistan and in CANADA as well.
I meet and see people here, everyday, who may look like radicals to you, judging by their typical dress, but they don't harbor any hate towards any minority, let alone Christians.
As far as Pakistani help to SriLanka.....
You don't believe me but do you believe Sri Lankans ??
https://www.quora.com/What-do-Sri-Lankans-think-of-PakistanThe Sri Lankan president thanked Pakistan on Tuesday for helping the island nation root out terrorism from its soil, saying the government and its people were thankful to Pakistan for its assistance.
Sri Lanka is said to be the only country in the world to have defeated terrorism. Pakistan was a key supplier of weapons and aircraft for Sri Lanka’s military in its decades-long, bloody war against the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam that ended in May 2009.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1022644/sri-lanka-thanks-pakistan-for-help-in-wiping-out-terror/The report said that Sri Lankan army was running short of ammunition but tied up supplies of 60mm, 81mm, 120mm and 130mm mortars and 150,000 grenades every ten days during its crucial battle to overrun the Tigers' political capital Kilinochchi.
According to the report, Pakistan supplied weapons and ammunition worth USD 190 million for the past one year and the Colombo's shopping list supplied by its army chief Sarath Fonseka included 22 Al-Khalid main battle tanks and other high tech arms.
As part of the cooperation, Pakistan Air Force pilots had participated in several successful air strikes against several military bases of the LTTE in August 2008, the report said.
Islamabad had positioned a highly trained group of Pakistani armed officers in Colombo to guide the Sri Lankan security forces in their operations against the LTTE. This was quite contrary to the LTTE propaganda that India was helping the Sri Lankan Government.
http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/pak-played-key-role-in-lankas-victory-over-tamil-tigers/467482/1N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:
Fighter Fighter:
Unbelievable....
Pakistanis absolutely stand with you, Sri Lankans.
We can help you in countering that shit just like we did help you in past in eradicating LTTE.....
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Can't speak for Sri Lanka but if I were them I'd pass. Here's why:
Sri Lanka's Faustian bargain with Pakistan:
Exit LTTE, enter ISI$1:
Wherever there is a terror attack, chances are you will find Pakistani fingerprints all over the place. From Times Square in New York to the streets of Kabul and of course across India, virtually every bombing can be traced back to the terror factories located in Peshawar, Bahawalpur or Karachi. Not surprisingly, the Easter blasts that killed hundreds in Sri Lanka have revealed a Pakistani connection. Among the suicide bombers was Zahran Hashim, an Islamist extremist imam, who is believed to have visited Pakistan in 2018.
Hashim was a demagogue for the National Thowheeth Jamaath, which was known in Sri Lanka for vandalising Buddhist statues, but has the larger aim of spreading global jehad. His speeches are straight out of the Islamic State's playbook, inciting Sri Lankan Muslims to attack Buddhists, Hindus and Christians.
Islamic terrorism in Sri Lanka seems counter intuitive because the country's less than 10 per cent Muslim minority has no beef with the 70 per cent Buddhist majority. To get to the root of Islamic terror in the island nation, one must understand the outlook of the Sri Lankan Muslim.
Decades before the Gulf sheikdoms and ISIS had started exporting the doctrine of jehad, Sri Lankan Muslims had become infected with the virus of fanaticism. Sabiha Hasan, a Karachi-based researcher, writes in Pakistan Horizon (Vol. 38, No. 2) that in the 1940s when Indian Muslims "demanded a separate homeland for themselves, Sri Lankan Muslims supported their struggle". Basically, Sri Lankan Muslims were supporting India's breakup despite having no skin in the game.
Instead of being wary about the extraterritorial loyalties of its Muslim population, Sri Lankan politicians went full-tilt chummy with the country that its Muslims identified strongly with - Pakistan. The heads of state of both Sri Lanka and Pakistan exchanged official visits. In 1954, Sri Lankan Prime Minister John Kotelawala said in Islamabad: "We were so close to each other. We should know each other better and try to help each other."
During the 1971 Bangladesh crisis, after India withdrew landing and overflight rights to Pakistan, Sri Lanka granted refuelling facilities to Pakistan International Airlines. In March-April 1971, as the Pakistan Army launched Operation Searchlight to crush the Bengali independence movement in East Pakistan, Pakistani civilian and military aircraft made 174 landings at the Katunayake international airport. While Sri Lanka denied these aircraft were ferrying soldiers or weapons, in reality they were purely military flights that transported thousands of heavily armed troops who killed three million Bengali citizens over the next eight months.
Ironically, as Pakistani military flights passed through Katunayake in April 1971, a contingent of Indian Army troops was guarding the airport during a communist insurgency that took 10,000 lives across Sri Lanka. Indian Navy warships were also deployed off Colombo to defend the port.
The bonhomie continued after the war. In December 1976, the Colombo Municipal Council named a public ground in the national capital as Jinnah Maidan.
War in the north
It was during the civil war involving the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) that the Pakistani military and its shadowy spy agency Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was able to develop close links with Sri Lanka's military. In May 2008, Lt. Gen Sarath Fonseka, the chief of the Sri Lanka Army visited Islamabad with a shopping list that included 22 tanks, hundreds of thousands of grenades and other weapons and ammunition. The deal was worth over $100 million. According to 'The News' of Pakistan, as part of the cooperation, PAF pilots participated in air strikes against LTTE bases in August 2008. Islamabad also positioned a group of Pakistan Army officers in Colombo to guide the Sri Lankan security forces in their operations.
According to Bahukutumbi Raman, who headed the counter terrorism division at the Research and Analysis Wing, Pakistan's military assistance took on an ominous turn in September 2003 after the unpublicised visit of General Mohammed Aziz Khan of the Pakistan Army to Colombo. Since the Indian policy was to defeat the LTTE - without overtly entering the conflict - New Delhi had never objected to the growing military ties between Sri Lanka and Pakistan, but Khan's secret visit upset Delhi. The Tamil Guardian says this was because Khan "had co-ordinated Pakistan's proxy war against India through various jehadi terrorist organisations" and "played an active role in the clandestine occupation of Indian territory in Kargil".
The Dawn newspaper reports that in 2011 the then Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari offered training to Sri Lankan police and intelligence agencies.
Exit LTTE, enter ISI
The ISI had for years been trying to get a foothold in Sri Lanka. Since it could not obviously get sympathisers among the country's Buddhists, Hindus and Christians, the spy agency's hope lay with the Muslim minority. However, the LTTE's dominance prevented outsiders from setting foot in these areas.
In fact, the LTTE had expelled most of the Sri Lankan Muslims from their coastal enclaves in the east, after the Tigers discovered they were collaborating with the government forces. Despite being condemned to second class status by the Sri Lankan constitution, the Muslim population - largely of Tamil origin - refused to join the Tamil struggle for equal rights. Their refusal to support the Tigers is reflected in Zahran Hashim's words: "The loyalty of Muslims should only be for the nation ruled by Muslims."
After the Sri Lankan security forces eliminated the LTTE with help from Pakistan, the field was safe for the ISI to move in. The long interaction between the Sri Lankan security forces and the free hand given to Pakistani military and spies no doubt allowed the ISI to develop contacts among the local Muslims once they returned to their eastern strongholds. According to Ceylon Today, the ISI has used the banned terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba and its charitable wing, the Idara Khidmat-e-Khalq, as proxies to radicalise Sri Lankan Muslims.
Madhura Seneviratne of Australia's government owned Special Broadcasting Service reveals Pakistan's motives: "Using Sri Lanka as a staging post, the ISI's primary and apparent objective is to encircle India from all sides. It wanted to use the island nation to access south India, both in terms of finding terror networks as well as for recruitment of cadres."
N. Manoharan of the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies explains why Sri Lanka has entered into a Faustian bargain with the jehadis in Pakistan: "Pakistan's activities in Sri Lanka have not been seen with suspicion by the security establishment of the island state. Sri Lanka-Pakistan relations have been good without any irritants. Sri Lanka is ever grateful to Pakistan for all the military support during the Eelam War. In addition, when Sri Lanka was hauled (up) by the international community for human rights excesses during that war, Islamabad rendered unstinted diplomatic support."
Clearly, despite the collapse of Sri Lanka's once vibrant economy due to the civil war, the Sinhala elites have learnt nothing. It was their Apartheid-like policies aimed at the Tamils that resulted in the rise of the LTTE. Now, their carte blanche to the ISI could spawn more Islamic terror groups like the National Thowheeth Jamaath which could send the country into another cycle of violence.
Threat to India
The ISI penetration of Sri Lanka presents a huge threat for India. In 2013, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) arrested two Sri Lankan Muslims, Mohammed Sakir Hussain and Suleman Hussain, and an Indian Tamil, Thameen Ansari, on charges of spying. All three confessed that their handlers were agents posted at the Pakistani High Commission in Colombo. In 2014, the NIA arrested a third Sri Lankan national named Arun Selvarajan in Chennai for spying on behalf of the ISI. Selvarajan's arrest indicates that Pakistan has been able to make inroads into peninsular India.
The ISI's Sri Lankan bureau has collected information on a large number of strategic assets in Tamil Nadu and its neighbouring states. Sri Lankan Muslims were able to easily blend into the local population and do the recce work for the Pakistanis. According to Manoharan, the ISI has already obtained data on critical assets including the Kalapakkam nuclear plant, NSG hub in Chennai, Coast Guard installations on the eastern coast, Officers Training Academy in Chennai, and the ports of Nagapattinam, Chennai, Ennore, Vizag and Kochi. "Going by the confessions of the arrestees, information gathering was meant for planning a terror attack," he says. "The first ever terror attack in Chennai in May (2014) was not unconnected to the larger ISI plot."
Checkmating the ISI
India must accept a large part of the blame for the mess in Sri Lanka. Firstly, by refusing to carve out an independent Tamil Eelam, New Delhi failed to protect the interests of the Sri Lankan Tamils. At the very least, it should have ensured an autonomous Tamil area in the North and East. For, if India could provide special status to J&K then why not provide the same to Sri Lankan Tamils who are more loyal to India than the Kashmiris.
Secondly, if India was prepared to sell out the Sri Lankan Tamils for larger strategic reasons, then it should have got a good value for the deal. Instead, it stood by as both Pakistan and China stepped into the vacuum created by the LTTE's downfall and India's exit. In fact, General Fonseka has gone on record that his country turned to China and Pakistan for military purchases only after New Delhi refused to supply weapons to it.
One way to retrieve the situation is to conduct a massive counter intelligence sweep that will dismantle the ISI network in Sri Lanka. India's advantage is that it still commands goodwill among the island's Tamils who can be relied upon to identify the jehadis. Also, Sri Lanka's cosiness with Pakistan can't be allowed to become a security threat for India. Just as the US won't allow the Russians to meddle in Mexico, India shouldn't permit Islamabad to buy influence in Colombo. First up, the islanders must be told they have to find alternate sources for their weapons and ammunition.
The Sinhala leadership must be reminded that while Sri Lanka is literally in India's backyard, it is thousands of miles from Pakistan. Colombo cannot fight local fires with water from distant shores.
(The author is a New Zealand-based defence and foreign affairs analyst)
https://www.businesstoday.in/opinion/co ... 39389.htmlQuoting Indian article? against Pakistan?
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
That aligns with the chatter I'm hearing that Sri Lanka officially asserts a Pakistani connection at an official level.
Unlikely to lead to a war but very likely to lead to severed diplomatic relations and a civil war against the local Muslim population who were not very popular to begin with what with desecrating everyone else's temples, churches, and etc.
Baseless....
Sri Lankans have yet to officially announce and name perpetrators...Only their announcement and findings will be considered valid.
Rest all belong to rumor mill with 0 credibility.
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
I read in the news that this now looks like retaliation for the New Zealand massacre.
Let's watch social media, and even places like here, continue to post their messages of hate and pretend like there aren't real world consequences.
9/11 was the aftershocks of something else, which was the aftershock of yet another thing. It keeps going round and round till some people start lining up at gas chambers and other people wake up to what they have been doing.
For a couple decades, then lather, rinse, repeat. It's what we do.
I am feeling angry that instead of debating about attack......this thread from the start was diverted towards Muslimns.
I wanted to comment on this specific attack - the reasons?? lot of Ys?
Well...You looks to me the only guy who know history and geopolitics over here. Your post had less content but yet much knowledgeable and worth to look and think about.
while browsing internet , came across a comment, made by a Sri Lankan guy...
He said this attack was planned before Christ Church shooting...
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Also the news is Sri Lankan government had warning about it but they didn't give importance to it.
This is very fishy attack....Many say this cannot done by any radical group...there are some trouble makers in lanka but not that capable to pull this off....
This is one sophisticated military style attack... any enemy of Sri Lanka involved?
We may never know about this.
RIP to the dead and speedy recovery to injured ones.
death toll is 290 or more than it...
If this was really retaliatory attack of Newzealand shooting then why Sri Lankans were chosen? why not in Australia? from where the perpetrator of Christ church mosque shooting actually belongs to?
So many questions...I am asking these questions to myself to understand the riddle behind this horrific attack.
May people remain safe around the world....LEAs across world should cooperate with each other.
This must come to an end.