[ryan29]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

So it's true that you can't even use the words bad and Liberal in the same sentence.

Typo rectified. Now you are reduced to what you have all along, nothing.

Your party is doing the same political riding porking that you screamed about and all you can do is attack the Liberals.

Typical hypocracy from you and your right-wing fanaticism.

but your forgeting the way government funding works , these programs do not hand out money to booming cities , but rather struggling areas .
so in quebec that means rural areas and forestry towns are going to be geting more funding . a city like montreal and its urban liberal ridings would not qualify for alot of this funding .
and its the same in ontario , look to northern ontario as an example . those ridings aren't conservative yet they get alot of federal government funding because there struggling economic areas .

whatever liberal wrote this article for global is forgeting how these programs work or are intended to in the first place.

[DerbyX]

ryan29 ryan29:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

So it's true that you can't even use the words bad and Liberal in the same sentence.

Typo rectified. Now you are reduced to what you have all along, nothing.

Your party is doing the same political riding porking that you screamed about and all you can do is attack the Liberals.

Typical hypocracy from you and your right-wing fanaticism.

but your forgeting the way government funding works , these programs do not hand out money to booming cities , but rather struggling areas .
so in quebec that means rural areas and forestry towns are going to be geting more funding . a city like montreal and its urban liberal ridings would not qualify for alot of this funding .
and its the same in ontario , look to northern ontario as an example . those ridings aren't conservative yet they get alot of federal government funding because there struggling economic areas .

whatever liberal wrote this article for global is forgeting how these programs work or are intended to in the first place.

No, I do. RR does not. That has entirely been my point if you go back and read my first post this thread.

My point is that this type of funding does happen and that its understandable how it happens.

His point is that when the Liberals were doing it they were rotten corrupt bastards and when the CPC dose it "he doesn't like it".

[ryan29]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ryan29 ryan29:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ridenrain ridenrain:

So it's true that you can't even use the words bad and Liberal in the same sentence.

Typo rectified. Now you are reduced to what you have all along, nothing.

Your party is doing the same political riding porking that you screamed about and all you can do is attack the Liberals.

Typical hypocracy from you and your right-wing fanaticism.

but your forgeting the way government funding works , these programs do not hand out money to booming cities , but rather struggling areas .
so in quebec that means rural areas and forestry towns are going to be geting more funding . a city like montreal and its urban liberal ridings would not qualify for alot of this funding .
and its the same in ontario , look to northern ontario as an example . those ridings aren't conservative yet they get alot of federal government funding because there struggling economic areas .

whatever liberal wrote this article for global is forgeting how these programs work or are intended to in the first place.

No, I do. RR does not. That has entirely been my point if you go back and read my first post this thread.

My point is that this type of funding does happen and that its understandable how it happens.

His point is that when the Liberals were doing it they were rotten corrupt bastards and when the CPC dose it "he doesn't like it".

well i'm not sure but whoever wrote the original article was doing it as a smear on the conservatives and there mp's from quebec . and they clearly were paying no attention to the reasons as to why these ridings got funding in the first place . and the fact the liberals seats are all small and located in a few urban pockets in the city of montreal , areas that would not likely qualify for alot of this funding . funding that is usually aimed at struggling areas or small towns . the author does not mention that the liberals do not hold a single rural or small town/city riding in the entire province of quebec anymore.

[ridenrain]

What's the problem Derby? Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I have the power to change it, and as a Reformer, I got a lot to dislike.
This system has been used and abused by countless governments before it and the CPC would lose if they didn't. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater because the CPC is doing a far better job governing than the Liberals did.

[DerbyX]

ryan29 ryan29:

well i'm not sure but whoever wrote the original article was doing it as a smear on the conservatives and there mp's from quebec . and they clearly were paying no attention to the reasons as to why these ridings got funding in the first place . and the fact the liberals seats are all small and located in a few urban pockets in the city of montreal , areas that would not likely qualify for alot of this funding . funding that is usually aimed at struggling areas or small towns . the author does not mention that the liberals do not hold a single rural or small town/city riding in the entire province of quebec anymore.

You don't understand. None of the conservative parties paid any attention when the Liberals were doing the same thing and they cried foul. Now they are being returned the favour.

What goes around comes around.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

What's the problem Derby? Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I have the power to change it, and as a Reformer, I got a lot to dislike.
This system has been used and abused by countless governments before it and the CPC would lose if they didn't. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater because the CPC is doing a far better job governing than the Liberals did.

1) You are the person who talks about changing the system.

2) You simply can't accept that there are things I don't like about the Liberals but I don't think they warrant the treatment you give them or deserve the fate you say they do.

3) So far the CPC has mirroed every single corrupt action and concept you screamed and hoolered about. If those actions truly bothered you then you would either be an NDP supporter or a bloody anarchist against all parties.

4) Thats your opinion about their governing and I don't echo it.

The bottom line is that all the reasons you called the Liberals corrupt are mirroed in your own party. All of them.

Those aren't the reasons I don't vote CPC. I vote the issues, something you are the rest of the hypocrite core do not in any way shape or form.

[ryan29]

DerbyX DerbyX:

ryan29 ryan29:

well i'm not sure but whoever wrote the original article was doing it as a smear on the conservatives and there mp's from quebec . and they clearly were paying no attention to the reasons as to why these ridings got funding in the first place . and the fact the liberals seats are all small and located in a few urban pockets in the city of montreal , areas that would not likely qualify for alot of this funding . funding that is usually aimed at struggling areas or small towns . the author does not mention that the liberals do not hold a single rural or small town/city riding in the entire province of quebec anymore.

You don't understand. None of the conservative parties paid any attention when the Liberals were doing the same thing and they cried foul. Now they are being returned the favour.

What goes around comes around.

yeah but when the liberals funded quebec it was called a sponsorship and it was intended to build support for the liberal government in separist areas. they were funding events and stuff around the province , and used the government logo .

it is different than funding local industries and airport runway expansions . how can they complain if the funding leads to more local jobs ?
mean the liberal funding just went to ad agencys in montreal and did little to help the ecomomy .

[ridenrain]

Tell me that after 2 CPC majority governments.
Tell me that when the CPC are CONVICTED of stealing taxpayers money.
Tell me that when the Liberals have repaid Canadian taxpayers the money they stole from ADSCAM.

[DerbyX]

ryan29 ryan29:

DerbyX DerbyX:

ryan29 ryan29:

well i'm not sure but whoever wrote the original article was doing it as a smear on the conservatives and there mp's from quebec . and they clearly were paying no attention to the reasons as to why these ridings got funding in the first place . and the fact the liberals seats are all small and located in a few urban pockets in the city of montreal , areas that would not likely qualify for alot of this funding . funding that is usually aimed at struggling areas or small towns . the author does not mention that the liberals do not hold a single rural or small town/city riding in the entire province of quebec anymore.

You don't understand. None of the conservative parties paid any attention when the Liberals were doing the same thing and they cried foul. Now they are being returned the favour.

What goes around comes around.

yeah but when the liberals funded quebec it was called a sponsorship and it was intended to build support for the liberal government in separist areas. they were funding events and stuff around the province , and used the government logo .

it is different than funding local industries and airport runway expansions . how can they complain if the funding leads to more local jobs ?
mean the liberal funding just went to ad agencys in montreal and did little to help the ecomomy .

1) You keep linking a single article to the entire Liberal party.

2) You are now making justifications and when you do that you have already lost becasue all you are realling sayin gis that its OK when my party does it but not when the other party does it.

3) You are simply skipping over the point that it was the act of riding sponorship for any reason that the majority of people objected to and therefore they should object to all parties doing it.

[DerbyX]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Tell me that after 2 CPC majority governments.
Tell me that when the CPC are CONVICTED of stealing taxpayers money.
Tell me that when the Liberals have repaid Canadian taxpayers the money they stole from ADSCAM.

1) I won't allow your party to get 2 majorities. I don't trust them and neither does the bulk of Canada.

2) Prove which Liberals were convicted of stealing tax payer money.

3) A dog and pony smear campaign over adscam is small change compared to trying to bribe a dying man in order to force an electio.

Get it?

Its all a matter of perspective and you simple haven't got the ability to see that. All you see is so called Liberal corruption which you ascribe to the entire party and which blinds you.

[kenmore]

If my MP was Prime Minister I would want some perks .. wouldnt you?... but in this case its Harper trying to buy a majority.... As a Quebecker I want to thank him for recognizing we are a nation.. thanks stevie and I am happy to accept any money he wishes to throw our way... Merci...

[mtbr]

kenmore kenmore:

If my MP was Prime Minister I would want some perks .. wouldnt you?... but in this case its Harper trying to buy a majority.... As a Quebecker I want to thank him for recognizing we are a nation.. thanks stevie and I am happy to accept any money he wishes to throw our way... Merci...

Calgary gets nothing from Harper...including grief.... we're happy with that

[bootlegga]

ridenrain ridenrain:

No no. That was simply a good MP working for his riding but this is unparalelled corruption, the likes of which Canada has never seen before... or that's what they'd have you believe.

That said, I don't like it.

ridenrain ridenrain:

What's the problem Derby? Just because I don't like something doesn't mean I have the power to change it, and as a Reformer, I got a lot to dislike.
This system has been used and abused by countless governments before it and the CPC would lose if they didn't. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater because the CPC is doing a far better job governing than the Liberals did.

Wait a minute, in one sentence you say you don't like it, and in another you say oh well, everyone else does it? And you got a shot in at the Liberals. Good work.


I guess you've managed to shake the partisan label right?

[Bodah]

What a joke, this isn't anything new. Politicians have been throwing cash at Quebec for decades, get over it its not a secret. Stevie is just following a time honored tradition when it comes to greasing the squeaky wheel to a province with self-esteem issues that happens to have a shit load of MP seats that makes a difference in an election.

And all of sudden you hypocrites act like this is horrible and its up to him to stop the time honored tradition of throwing cash at Quebec, why the fuck should he so he can get labeled as anti-Quebec/Francophone ? lol Harper isnt stupid and until the system changes he has no choice.

[CrazyCanuck007]

i'm shocked....