[BRAH]

xerxes xerxes:

BRAH BRAH:

Thanos Thanos:

Heard also that a lot of American/European intelligence inside of Russia went tits up thanks to the antics of the traitor Snowden and Glenn Greenwald, i.e. "the documents will never end up in the hands of Putin" somehow magically ended up in the hands of Putin. As such the West was completely in the dark as to what the Russians had planned for Crimea. Anyone still want to persist with the illusion that the guy with the hipster glasses is merely a heroic whistleblower and not the deep-cover Russian intelligence operative that some of us have known he was all along? Between Wikileaks and Snowden, the past several years have seen the greatest triumphs for Russian intelligence since Army Group Centre got pulverized and sent fleeing in headlong retreat across the Polish border back in 1944.

Snowden and Wikkileaks have blood on their hands.

xerxes xerxes:

I get your points Bart but, absent starting WW3 just what was the West supposed to do? With all due respect to Palin, she was dismissed out of hand because it did seem so preposterous that in this day and age, someone would do what Russia has done.

If the West had strong leadership from the United States and Europe Putin might have thought twice about his adventures.

I don't buy the "strength" argument for one second. Was Eisenhower a "weak" president during the crushed Hungarian revolution? Was LBJ a wuss when the USSR rolled 5 divisions into Czechoslovakia in response to the Prague Spring?

Obama is a weak with Putin, look how he was out manouvred with Syria.

[BRAH]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BRAH BRAH:

Gunnair Gunnair:

I wouldn't stop there. No one is interested in anything but words.

Besides, 76% of Americans do not support military intervention. What do recommend Obama to do with those stats?

Obama has shown he governs by polls so he will do nothing but draw lines Putin will continue to cross while Lurch uses big words.

Funny that. A political leader opting to listen to the majority of his electorate.

Like Bush or not he never made decisions on what the latest poll said unlike Obama who's based his whole Presidency on the polls, that's not leadership it's pandering.

Thanos Thanos:

Putin ran rings around George W. Bush as much, if not more, than he allegedly has around President Obama. If you're looking for "strong leadership" to ward off Putin you're going to have to look somewhere else than at the cretins who make up the allegedly "tough" GOP leadership.

The only Western Leaders who were strong enough to take on Putin would be Kennedy, Johnson, Regan and Thatcher.

[Thanos]

Explain how George W. Bush, or any other Republican today, would be tougher on Russia and Putin than President Obama has been. Real evidence please, not the babble from the goons on FOX or the hate-radio programs.

[BRAH]

Thanos Thanos:

Explain how George W. Bush, or any other Republican today, would be tougher on Russia and Putin than President Obama has been. Real evidence please, not the babble from the goons on FOX or the hate-radio programs.

I would say Bush and Clinton would be tougher on Putin than Obama, an example they both saw Saddam as a threat which had to be removed hence Clinton signing into Law the Iraq liberation act which Bush acted upon. Putin respected them more than Obama who makes the threat of not crossing the line and when it's crossed he doesn't back it up, so with Putin he looks weak while in other areas he doesn't such as continuing drone strikes against Terrorists.

[MeganC]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This young lady (Darja) is one of my Estonian friends:

I'm not even gay and I'd tap that!

[DrCaleb]

Photos of Russian equipment on Ukraine border:

[PostFactum]

Yepp, todays news photo from satelite.

[Jabberwalker]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Photos of Russian equipment on Ukraine border:

That little tank farm is hardly Guderian's XIX Corps. It looks more like a "Canadian Army gathering of resources.

[Canadian_Mind]

You don't keep all your forces together in one massive formation for numerous reasons. That may be a small gathering of units, but it is one of hundreds of similar small formations.

[BartSimpson]

Thanos Thanos:

Explain how George W. Bush, or any other Republican today, would be tougher on Russia and Putin than President Obama has been. Real evidence please, not the babble from the goons on FOX or the hate-radio programs.

The only person who shows even an inkling of maybe being tougher would be Sarah Palin. Given that she correctly determined Russian intent in 2008 she's probably the one Republican best suited to dealing with this.

The rest of them are probably still scratching their heads wondering how a 'redneck' Tea Partier like Palin could have sorted out Putin far better than they did.

[BartSimpson]

MeganC MeganC:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

This young lady (Darja) is one of my Estonian friends:

(Idiotic and childish comment)

Excuse me, this is a FRIEND of mine.

[BartSimpson]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Photos of Russian equipment on Ukraine border:
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Sad to say, that's probably enough to seize an awful lot of Ukraine.

[DrCaleb]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

Photos of Russian equipment on Ukraine border:
(edited for space)

Sad to say, that's probably enough to seize an awful lot of Ukraine.

Especially since it seems they won't encounter much resistance in the East.

[BartSimpson]

This whole Ukraine thing is interesting in the fact that a year ago right now Ukraine and Russia were close friends.

Yet the Russians seemed to have given this operation quite a bit of thought.

It makes me wonder if the deposing of Yanukovich were itself a part of the operation in order to use this situation to justify the seizure of Crimea.

The Russians pride themselves on 'maskirovka' (masquerade) operations and given that Putin is an old school KGB hand I'm sure there's some backslapping going on at the House that Feliks built over the whole thing.

[BRAH]

The West's failure to understand Putin's Russia

http://www.nationalobserver.net/2012/85-2-miller-putin-russia.htm
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