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Ruserious
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:26 am
$1: With a big shift in voter intention in Ontario in the homestretch of the campaign, a new poll shows the Conservative Party's earlier lead whittling away. From a tracking poll of 1,000 Canadians, the latest numbers by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail shows Conservative support dropping and Liberal support gaining strength. Conservatives have dropped from an 18-point national lead earlier this week to a nine-point lead now, according to interviews conducted Jan. 17 and 18. The national numbers (percentage point change since a Jan 14-16 poll in brackets): Liberals: 28 (+4) Conservatives: 37 (-5) NDP: 16 (-1) Bloc: 12 (same) Green: 7 (same) There were similar yet more dramatic shifts in support at the tail end of the 2004 election campaign. However, Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper never had such a large lead back then. source
And that poll was by the same people that had them way out front.. which means that it's even closer than that.
As I keep telling you.. the cons will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. It's their destiny.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:29 am
Ruserious Ruserious: $1: With a big shift in voter intention in Ontario in the homestretch of the campaign, a new poll shows the Conservative Party's earlier lead whittling away. From a tracking poll of 1,000 Canadians, the latest numbers by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail shows Conservative support dropping and Liberal support gaining strength. Conservatives have dropped from an 18-point national lead earlier this week to a nine-point lead now, according to interviews conducted Jan. 17 and 18. The national numbers (percentage point change since a Jan 14-16 poll in brackets): Liberals: 28 (+4) Conservatives: 37 (-5) NDP: 16 (-1) Bloc: 12 (same) Green: 7 (same) There were similar yet more dramatic shifts in support at the tail end of the 2004 election campaign. However, Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper never had such a large lead back then. sourceAnd that poll was by the same people that had them way out front.. which means that it's even closer than that. As I keep telling you.. the cons will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. It's their destiny. Dont worry Otis,if the libs get in be prepared for seperation by more then one province,then you can fend on your own hmmmmkay?
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:31 am
Oytis, your envios because you never get anuy snatch. but then you benifiuted when ssm came in. fuck i'm pssed I'm comtentplating voting liberal, nope not that stupid besidew s i already voted. I'm posdsting stupid because imn pissed, whjat's your excuse//?
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:37 am
Cat's out of the bag about the Cons. Big turn off to too many people.
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hwacker
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:38 am
Streaker Streaker: Cat's out of the bag about the Cons. Big turn off to too many people.
yeah ok, #'s will go up today, watch and learn. +2%
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:45 am
ziggy ziggy: Dont worry Otis,if the libs get in be prepared for seperation by more then one province,then you can fend on your own hmmmmkay?
"Vote our way or else" is childish and petulant. You might just as well be saying you're going to take your ball and go home. 
Last edited by DerbyX on Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:52 am
The only poll that matters is the election.
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Ruserious
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:59 am
With a seperatist attitude like that ziggy, it's easy to see why you'd support someone like Harper.
You're no better than the Quebec seperatists...
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GunPlumber
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:11 am
Ruserious Ruserious: $1: With a big shift in voter intention in Ontario in the homestretch of the campaign, a new poll shows the Conservative Party's earlier lead whittling away. From a tracking poll of 1,000 Canadians, the latest numbers by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail shows Conservative support dropping and Liberal support gaining strength. Conservatives have dropped from an 18-point national lead earlier this week to a nine-point lead now, according to interviews conducted Jan. 17 and 18. The national numbers (percentage point change since a Jan 14-16 poll in brackets): Liberals: 28 (+4) Conservatives: 37 (-5) NDP: 16 (-1) Bloc: 12 (same) Green: 7 (same) There were similar yet more dramatic shifts in support at the tail end of the 2004 election campaign. However, Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper never had such a large lead back then. sourceAnd that poll was by the same people that had them way out front.. which means that it's even closer than that. As I keep telling you.. the cons will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. It's their destiny.
The poll your quoting was done by the Strategic Counsel. I've posted before about their polling methods, but I'll repeat it for the slow learners in the crowd:
1. Their primary business is marketing. That means they're not so much interested in gauging opinions as changing them. They sell product - in this case a political party,
2. They've been caught red-handed on several occassions using very questional polling techniques or not polling at all before presenting an imaginary reult. The most famous incident was in 2002 when Macleans magazine commissioned them to conduct it's annual survey of Canada's best universities. The SC polled no-one west of Manitoba and on it's list of 10 Best Medical Schools, it named two universities that didn't even have medical prgrams or faculty.
3. Aside from the very heavily-Liberal biased GlobeMedia (the Globe and Mail, CTV -and it's affiliates-, Macleans magazine) no other media ever goes near these jokers.
Put whatever faith you want in polls, but keep in mind that the poll that was quoted here doesn't include any respondents from Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba (i.e., the Tory Base) and ask yourself this: if they omitted results from the provinces most committed to supporting the CPC, what other data are they withholding in order to make the product they are selling more palatable?
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hwacker
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:16 am
GunPlumber GunPlumber: Ruserious Ruserious: $1: With a big shift in voter intention in Ontario in the homestretch of the campaign, a new poll shows the Conservative Party's earlier lead whittling away. From a tracking poll of 1,000 Canadians, the latest numbers by The Strategic Counsel for CTV and The Globe and Mail shows Conservative support dropping and Liberal support gaining strength. Conservatives have dropped from an 18-point national lead earlier this week to a nine-point lead now, according to interviews conducted Jan. 17 and 18. The national numbers (percentage point change since a Jan 14-16 poll in brackets): Liberals: 28 (+4) Conservatives: 37 (-5) NDP: 16 (-1) Bloc: 12 (same) Green: 7 (same) There were similar yet more dramatic shifts in support at the tail end of the 2004 election campaign. However, Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper never had such a large lead back then. sourceAnd that poll was by the same people that had them way out front.. which means that it's even closer than that. As I keep telling you.. the cons will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. It's their destiny. The poll your quoting was done by the Strategic Counsel. I've posted before about their polling methods, but I'll repeat it for the slow learners in the crowd: 1. Their primary business is marketing. That means they're not so much interested in gauging opinions as changing them. They sell product - in this case a political party, 2. They've been caught red-handed on several occassions using very questional polling techniques or not polling at all before presenting an imaginary reult. The most famous incident was in 2002 when Macleans magazine commissioned them to conduct it's annual survey of Canada's best universities. The SC polled no-one west of Manitoba and on it's list of 10 Best Medical Schools, it named two universities that didn't even have medical prgrams or faculty. 3. Aside from the very heavily-Liberal biased GlobeMedia (the Globe and Mail, CTV -and it's affiliates-, Macleans magazine) no other media ever goes near these jokers. Put whatever faith you want in polls, but keep in mind that the poll that was quoted here doesn't include any respondents from Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba (i.e., the Tory Base) and ask yourself this: if they omitted results from the provinces most committed to supporting the CPC, what other data are they withholding in order to make the product they are selling more palatable?
In other words, any poll that doesn't show exactly what you want is obviously Liberal biased eh?
http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/polls.php
This shows that Strategic council polls have shown the largest CPC lead and I doubt they got that without polling the western provinces.
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Ruserious
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:17 am
$1: 3. Aside from the very heavily-Liberal biased GlobeMedia (the Globe and Mail, CTV -and it's affiliates-, Macleans magazine) no other media ever goes near these jokers.
Liberal media...my ass.
Their lips have been firmly planted on Harper's ass all throughout this election campaign.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:25 am
Ruserious Ruserious: $1: 3. Aside from the very heavily-Liberal biased GlobeMedia (the Globe and Mail, CTV -and it's affiliates-, Macleans magazine) no other media ever goes near these jokers. Liberal media...my ass. Their lips have been firmly planted on Harper's ass all throughout this election campaign.
Exactly. Let's go through it for the slow learners in the crowd:
The Globe And Mail: Has endorsed Harper.
CTV: Among other things, last night ran a total puff piece on Harper.
Macleans: Current editor was formerly editor of the National Post.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:26 am
Ruserious Ruserious: $1: 3. Aside from the very heavily-Liberal biased GlobeMedia (the Globe and Mail, CTV -and it's affiliates-, Macleans magazine) no other media ever goes near these jokers. Liberal media...my ass. Their lips have been firmly planted on Harper's ass all throughout this election campaign.
It seems they called the Toronto Star a bastion of Liberal media bias and I read it everyday and they continue to give it to the Libs.
Youhave to understand that to a con:
Fair press = Liberally biased
Not completely biased in favour of CPC = anti-conservative. pro-liberal media
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Ruserious
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:27 am
Not to forget that SC is owned by one Allan Gregg, a member of Mulroney's rat pack.
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