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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:26 pm
I am the one that always was seen as the enemy they can reach.
I am the one that always was seen as the enemy they can hit, smack, spit at, stone, take his money, his property, and mess with his family if they get the chance.
I am the one who lived all his life not as a second degree citizen, and not as a third degree citizen, but as no degree citizen in the country of my birth, were my ancestors existed before me for thousands, and thousands of years anywhere in the Middle East, or North Africa.
I am the ancient times history that you knocked out from your consciousness, and the same one that everyone forgot about, and don’t want to remember, just because my genocide was very well veiled by my haters.
I am the one who was compensated spiritually, today as much as yestaerday, by kissing the a$$es of the people who shunned my existence every single day of my life, spat in my face and call me Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Abed (Black slave) as a demeanor, and yes, that same face God created.
I am the one who was harassed up until my humanity couldn't take it anymore, then got either kicked out of the country with the bare cloth on my screaming for justice body, or subdued to become Arabized.
I am the one that was living in peace with my neighbors before the spitting, the stoning, and the killing started in the seventh century in the name of the God that created me.
I am the Arabized Middle Easterner, and North African black who was either killed with the first wave of the sudden Arabic, Islamic invasion, submitted if I was of any use as craftsman or scientist, while if I resisted, I had to pay the “Jezia” (Islamic Tax) for my life, and if I didn’t have the money, then sold in the slave markets in Medina, Damascus, and Baghdad.
Only poor, oppressed, and rubbed of his dignity human without hope, not even for simple recognition from the united human race of today, and as much as of yesterday.
But let me tell you this, as my last call…
Unlike the Arabized who you call now either the true Arabs or the true Islam, Arabs who are not Arabized are the most mistrusted people according to any logic, and mistrusting people also according to any logic, unless it is the logic of Islam.
Nothing likes it in the entire whole universe.
They are the BORGS.
They had, want, and still seeking to assimilate each and every one human to the collective of Islam.
Yes Ladies and Gentlemen, the BORGS landed finally on earth, and it happened exactly when the first ARAB BORG got his subliminal message from ALLAH, who must be the lord of the BORGS.
So here we are…
It is either we all become one happy BORGY Moslem family, or we have to die because there is no room for us with all the NEW BORGS’ daily arrivals on the shores of all our entire planet, a SOLID BORG who refuse to be governed except by the collective of BORGS.
Looking at what Arabs are doing today make me wonder if the same hands that made the Jew, The Christians, The Buddhist, The any Religion you name it, made them, and if he did, did he use his common human dough, or the flower of hate and the seeds of death.
Yes I am
I am the Arabized.
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figfarmer
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Posts: 1682
Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:57 pm
Take advantage of it.
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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:07 am
figfarmer figfarmer: Re: Psychiatry Take advantage of it.
I see that you did, but how come it didn't work?
Funny guy... 
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Posts: 19817
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:13 am
human human: figfarmer figfarmer: Re: Psychiatry Take advantage of it. I see that you did, but how come it didn't work? Funny guy... 
I like Fig... He has that dark humour to him.
Never know what is comming next; I learned not to drink coffee while reading his post.
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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:16 am
-Mario- -Mario-: human human: figfarmer figfarmer: Re: Psychiatry Take advantage of it. I see that you did, but how come it didn't work? Funny guy...  I like Fig... He has that dark humour to him.  Never know what is comming next; I learned not to drink coffee while reading his post.
I love Fig fruits, but then what is a "fig farmer"? I heard that in Greece, fig trees doesn't even need watering; effortless indeed, but then I have to agree with your coffee theory here... 
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Posts: 9914
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:08 am
Human, are you trying to say the Islam is the only religion that believes this?
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thirdEye
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Posts: 436
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:58 am
It is hard to disagree with this post. Only the politically correct, those who are afraid to admit the truth, would disagree with it.
Good post.
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Zenfisher
Active Member
Posts: 356
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:25 pm
$1: It is either we all become one happy BORGY Moslem family, or we have to die because there is no room for us with all the NEW BORGS’ daily arrivals on the shores of all our entire planet, a SOLID BORG who refuse to be governed except by the collective of BORGS.
I can say that I have never had a Muslim try to convert me to their religion. I cannot say the same for any number of the Christian sects who have come to my door, and try to convert me to their way of thinking.
There are fanatics in all races and religions, that use their misinterpretation of a belief system or the physical differences between us all to further their own agenda or misguided beliefs. Do I believe Godz and Third eye are racist? No. Human is another story. This isn't about being politicallly correct. This is about blatantly attacking a specific culture and lumping all of that culture into a stereotypical facade.
The terrorists and fanatics like Human are the same. The are each so blinded for their hatred of each other, they refuse to see the other sides point of view. Its paranoid delusion. They are so sure that their object of hate has convinced all of the believers of whatever religion believe everything exactly as it is written in whatever book or parchment their faith is inscribed in. They forget, that we all have free will. Even the most tyranical dictator cannot control how we think and feel. This being said, they can brainwash us into believing almost anything. Our only way to combat the miguided teachings of the lunatic fringe in a number of belief systems, is by educating the people. We must extend our hand and show them, that the fanatics and terrorists are wrong. The conflict between what they have been told and what they experience will undo the damage that has been done to them.
Hate is a strong emotion. It is not easy to overcome. Bombing the hell out of a particular culture does not make the case that peace is an objective of an opposing point of view. It does not make the case that your point of view is the correct path to follow. Show me constuctive ways to deal with the divisions between our cultures and I will give more you more creedence. Human's post is a blatant attempt to divide us further. An attempt to instill a resentment for an entire culture based on the acts of a few thieves,killers and cowards.
The danger in giving Human's words value, continues that cycle of hate.
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China
Junior Member
Posts: 22
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:34 pm
$1: I can say that I have never had a Muslim try to convert me to their religion. Yet. I trust you understand they will not be arriving at your door dressed in white shirts and ties accompanied by a painfully pretty young girl thrusting magazines in your face and asking what would happen if the entire world repeated the Lord's Prayer three times a day. When they come to convert you it will be reminscent of the middle of the night door knock, and you will convert. $1: Do I believe Godz and Third eye are racist? No. Human is another story. Of course they're not, but anyone who identifies a race as being problematic is subject to cries of 'racism' by the abundant politically correct on this board. $1: Human is another story. See above. $1: This is about blatantly attacking a specific culture and lumping all of that culture into a stereotypical facade. It is about attacking a specific culture who condone (by their silence) the activities of their very own radical element. $1: The terrorists and fanatics like Human are the same. The are each so blinded for their hatred of each other, they refuse to see the other sides point of view. Its paranoid delusion. They are so sure that their object of hate has convinced all of the believers of whatever religion believe everything exactly as it is written in whatever book or parchment their faith is inscribed in. Cheap shots eminating from a delusional point of view. Delusion to you appears to be the concern and fear of others. Does what Human writes deserve to be relegated to the ranks of fanatical? I suspect not, but your pithy comments clearly place you as one who will accept whatever comes along without regard for your own or anyone else's safety and security. $1: They forget, that we all have free will. That's quite a statement considering considering your tirade. Free will means exactly what to a citizen of Zimbabwe or North Korea or Saudi Arabia? It would be interesting to say the least to watch you exercise your free will living under Taliban rule. $1: We must extend our hand and show them, that the fanatics and terrorists are wrong. That should do it, at least once. After you've been bitten by these rabid dogs will you continue to extend your hand until it's gone? $1: The conflict between what they have been told and what they experience will undo the damage that has been done to them. The damage will only be undone when there has been a second and third generation born and bred in western democratic countries. It's their children that will shuck the dogma. $1: Hate is a strong emotion. So is fear. $1: Human's post is a blatant attempt to divide us further. An attempt to instill a resentment for an entire culture based on the acts of a few thieves,killers and cowards. Hardly an attempt to divide and hardly an attempt to instill resentment. In case you haven't been following, these terrorists are quite capable of instilling fear and resentment without the assistance of Human. If the imams throughout the world one day decide to decry the activities of the terrorists bred from their distorted view of their religion the activities may stop unless it becomes a business like any other, which is likely. $1: The danger in giving Human's words value, continues that cycle of hate. The danger of not giving Human's words value is the destruction of your world and way of life.
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thirdEye
Active Member
Posts: 436
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:35 pm
Zenfisher Zenfisher: The danger in giving Human's words value, continues that cycle of hate. His words are valid in a historical sense, if not completely in the current sense. Islam has traditionally been spread by violent means, and it is, at its core, racist, misogynist, chauvinistic and totalitarian. Of course not all followers of Islam follow it word for word, just like not all Christians or Jews follow their faith word for word. The problem is that that number of Muslims who do follow it word for word is growing at a rapid pace, and many within Islam seek its expansion and ultimate domination globally. It does not take a majority of Muslims to do this. They will be able to do it quite easily with help from people who, with nothing but good intentions, welcome them with open arms and a blind eye toward the goals of a "radical few". Some related reading: http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?A ... ID=SP30101http://israel.prodos.org/html/markcoppock2.htmlhttp://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Re ... sp?ID=8844http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina40928.htmhttp://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htmhttp://www.swordoftruth.com/swordoftrut ... akitm.html $1: "How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
"Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die. But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytising faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."
- Sir Winston Churchill
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Twila
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Posts: 656
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:36 pm
$1: Do I believe Godz and Third eye are racist? No. Human is another story. [/quote]Of course they're not, but anyone who identifies a race as being problematic is subject to cries of 'racism' by the abundant politically correct on this board. [/quote]
Wow, Here less then 2 weeks and she's got everyone pegged. Soon you'll be calling everyone anti semetic when they disagree with you, no doubt.
How was the "vacation"?
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Zenfisher
Active Member
Posts: 356
Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:44 pm
China
The danger of people like Human who perpetually harp on the same subject, under the guise of " I'm just putting this out there for discussion" is the fuel the fires of hate. Those that aren't on the polarized end of opinion are often swayed by their fanatic beliefs. That was how Hitler managed to come to power. He solidifeid his core followers. Those that already believed as he did. As he rose to power he intimidated and played on their patriotism of those in the middle, to following his maniacal plan.
$1: Quote: This is about blatantly attacking a specific culture and lumping all of that culture into a stereotypical facade. It is about attacking a specific culture who condone (by their silence) the activities of their very own radical element
Your logic precludes that Canadians (as well as the majority of countries), by staying out of the war on Iraq are condoning the actions of the US. I see no evidence of large political rallies against the US taking part in Canada, at this time. Do I believe Canadians support the war? Of course not. I see no solution to the problem being put forth by Human. I see only screams " Watch Out! They are out to get us!" being suggeseted in Human's diatribe. $1: Quote: The terrorists and fanatics like Human are the same. The are each so blinded for their hatred of each other, they refuse to see the other sides point of view. Its paranoid delusion. They are so sure that their object of hate has convinced all of the believers of whatever religion believe everything exactly as it is written in whatever book or parchment their faith is inscribed in. Cheap shots eminating from a delusional point of view. Delusion to you appears to be the concern and fear of others. Does what Human writes deserve to be relegated to the ranks of fanatical? I suspect not, but your pithy comments clearly place you as one who will accept whatever comes along without regard for your own or anyone else's safety and security. Safety and security, don't come from locking ourselves into our own little regions and being a prisoner. It comes about when we are free to walk this planet without fear of each other. It arises when we can travel freely to other lands and experience their culture and beliefs and appreciate our differences. When we are so filled with hate and fear that we are prisoners in our own homes, the terrorists will have won. $1: Quote: They forget, that we all have free will. You might want to read the follwing sentences after this. $1: Quote: Human's post is a blatant attempt to divide us further. An attempt to instill a resentment for an entire culture based on the acts of a few thieves,killers and cowards. Hardly an attempt to divide and hardly an attempt to instill resentment. In case you haven't been following, these terrorists are quite capable of instilling fear and resentment without the assistance of Human. If the imams throughout the world one day decide to decry the activities of the terrorists bred from their distorted view of their religion the activities may stop unless it becomes a business like any other, which is likely.
F-U-R-T-H-E-R Why should we wait for the Imams to realize the terrorists are wrong. Shouldn't we be proving that by our actions. Shouldn't we be making so evident that we are trying to see their point of view that it couldn't be refuted by anyone, including the terrorists.
An After thought...my way of life,as you put it is being destroyed by the current leader of my country of residence.
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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:27 pm
QBCguy QBCguy: Human, are you trying to say the Islam is the only religion that believes this?
Actually, I am not trying, but rather saying what I read in their common and social history, plus their religious books from Koran, Hadith, and Charia while visualizing the difference between their video and Audio action around the globe; moreover, I am relating all this above to their veiled characteristics that I had observed for more than 17 years while living amongst them.
As for the other religions, I can say this; each one of them, as a topic, has his different characteristics, and I am not either comparing their benefits, or generalizing their flaws here. Thus diversion from the topic is not an option for me.
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human
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Posts: 730
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 1:49 pm
Zenfisher
$1: I can say that I have never had a Muslim try to convert me to their religion. I cannot say the same for any number of the Christian sects who have come to my door, and try to convert me to their way of thinking. Isn’t that is the core of my topic? Yet because you already labeled me, you can’t find enough focus in your intellect to see it, and your attempt to bring Christianity into the debate is what bankrupt your entire logic. You want to refute my points, brings your facts, and stay in the subject, I am raising. $1: There are fanatics in all races and religions, that use their misinterpretation of a belief system or the physical differences between us all to further their own agenda or misguided beliefs. Do I believe Godz and Third eye are racist? No. Human is another story. This isn't about being politicallly correct. This is about blatantly attacking a specific culture and lumping all of that culture into a stereotypical facade. Stereotypical façade is what you are doing when you bring other religions to the undeniable facts of hatred that enforcing themselves on the entire human race wanted it or not. But you are right when you said “human” is another story, and that because human is not part of the world’s herd of denial, ignorance, and ostrich policy. I stand for the truth, and in my unconventional belief, I believe that there is no SUBJECT that has to do with humanity should be a taboo just because the other side said so. Political correctness that produces benefits to the aggressors and miseries to us is not as correct when the home country people come from does not respect it; therefore, if those people want to use our political correctness to promote the life span of their dictatorial country, religion, or otherwise, then our political correctness defeat its purpose in ever way, isn’t it? $1: The terrorists and fanatics like Human are the same. The are each so blinded for their hatred of each other, they refuse to see the other sides point of view. Its paranoid delusion. They are so sure that their object of hate has convinced all of the believers of whatever religion believe everything exactly as it is written in whatever book or parchment their faith is inscribed in. They forget, that we all have free will. Even the most tyranical dictator cannot control how we think and feel. This being said, they can brainwash us into believing almost anything. Our only way to combat the miguided teachings of the lunatic fringe in a number of belief systems, is by educating the people. We must extend our hand and show them, that the fanatics and terrorists are wrong. The conflict between what they have been told and what they experience will undo the damage that has been done to them. What is your side of point of view? I read your responses, and the only fact I encountered is the fact of bringing the heavens to earth for the sole purpose of denying every fact anyone faced you with for the sake of apologizing to the hatred span, but hey, you are part of the majority that includes not only the terrorists, but also the people of the herd of rosy apologists all around the globe. However, the only delusional paranoia, and misguided lunatic fringe teachers around are people like you alone and not the terrorists because if it weren’t for your liberalism of fools this subject would’ve been closed the minute that was opened, and by the people whom you still call moderate, though no one else seen them yet, isn’t it? How you can live with your self when you can’t tell the difference between hatred and pointing to it? I bet you are so confused that nothing can make any difference to you except the mirror you use to look at when you attack people like myself, and describe them, as they are the terrorists and the fanatics your mirror reflect back at you alone. $1: Hate is a strong emotion. It is not easy to overcome. Bombing the hell out of a particular culture does not make the case that peace is an objective of an opposing point of view. It does not make the case that your point of view is the correct path to follow. Show me constuctive ways to deal with the divisions between our cultures and I will give more you more creedence. Human's post is a blatant attempt to divide us further. An attempt to instill a resentment for an entire culture based on the acts of a few thieves,killers and cowards. $1: The danger in giving Human's words value, continues that cycle of hate.
For your majesty to accuse human with what people like you already did when they divided the entire whole world for the sake of glorifying the terrorists through reflecting their self-hatred self against the facts, and against people like human by calling to devalue his words will not work anymore, and you know why?
Because people today are much smarter than the herd of people of the past, which Arabs, and Islamists herded with their deceit for the past fourteen centuries. 
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