[Thanos]

Or the dorm room, because every single one of his patented lefty bullshit statements indicates a student-for-life who has the intention of never ever leaving university for the real world.

[romanP]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

romanP romanP:

your dictionary was written by white people. racism cannot be defined by those who are incapable of experiencing it.

Given the puerility of that statement I can only assume you've never been to Zimbabwe?

i doubt you have either, but i do know people who came from Zimbabwe, one of whom was beaten within an inch of his life for being involved in activism. the creation of the nation state we now know as Zimbabwe came from a discovery by Dutch archaeologists who found ancient structures they did not believe Africans could have built and believed they must have come from some extinct white tribe. Zimbabweans were enslaved by white people for centuries, and all of the violence they have learned was taught to them by white people.

what did you want to tell me about Zimbabwe?

[romanP]

Thanos Thanos:

Or the dorm room, because every single one of his patented lefty bullshit statements indicates a student-for-life who has the intention of never ever leaving university for the real world.

i have never been enrolled in a single university course in my entire life. i know what i know because i listen to oppressed people and read what they write. the dictionary was not written by any of them.

[Thanos]

I doubt that you've ever read or listened to anything that didn't come with an "Approved By The Central Committee" stamp on it from the NDP HQ.

[romanP]

if i'm reading or listening to anything from the NDP, it's to keep tabs on how they continue to slip further right. i have never, in fact, subscribed to the NDP platform. they have earned the nickname No Difference Party for a reason.

[ccga3359]

CountLothian CountLothian:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

CountLothian CountLothian:

The problem is the fear of muslims that has been generated .

There are Muslims that are no different in mentality than that which we find in the Bible Belt of America.

But it does not follow from that, that a larger insinuated equivalency is consistent. Islam and Christianity are not the same thing in the way the ideologies operate.

Islam is dualistic between the political and the religious with the line clearly being drawn by something from the Koran called "abrogation". The political ideology outlined by Mohammed during his Medina period clearly demands supremacism necessitating war with and subjugation over those not following Islam. This is done in a specific manner outlined in "the verses of the sword", and shown by the example of their warlord.

The similarity with Christianity is only that they are claimed religions over multi-racial flocks.

hmmmm...maybe I do not know the same Islam as you.

I'll look into it further.

As for me i just get from Muslims i know that it is all about peace love and tolerance.

They even believe Jesus lived and Mary gave a virgin birth to him. But he is not god.

They say they have to help people.

You re correct Count that there are fundamentalists in both Christianity and in Islam, however I have never, ever met a Christian that wants to harm me for my lapsed belief or because I chuckled at a cartoon of Jesus. Well when I say lapsed belief, I was christened in the Church of England faith but I am an atheist (not even a practicing atheist as I've got it down to a fine art. I swear to god) (shit, I need more practice). As an atheist I believe the was a rabbi named Jesus that roamed the earth. I don't believe he was born of virgin birth I think it's more likely that a jewish girl told a little fib. Wow I've just admitted that I am an apostolic, blaspheming infidel. Each of which is dealt with by punishment of death in Islamic led countries. Ah yes religion of peace, just like christiandom. Problem is christanity abandoned those punishments centuries ago, did islam? As you're researching Islamism might I suggest that you investigate Afghanistan in the 50s/60s or Iran in the 70s. I certainly appears that as Christianity has progressed over the centuries that islam has regressed over the decades.

I used to work in a company that employed a lot of ethnic minorities. When I started there the biggest minority was Assyrians, Iraqi Christians who had fled Iraq under Saddam Hussein many had fought in the Iraq/Iran war. To a man they would tell me never to trust a muslim. they were of a different culture, were quite typical of middle eastern values I supposed but amiable, we got along well enough. More waves of ethnic people came as the company grew. Vietnamese that were already in country for a while. Fully assimilated, hard working, fantastic people who cherished Canadian values whilst still celebrating their culture. When Canada brought in Somali refugees we hired several, greatful to be here and yes muslim. By this time the company had a high percentage of muslims, Somali, Palestinian and Pakistani mostly. For the most part there were no issues, one or two squabbles amongst the muslim workers, different sects and all. Then came 9/11. I watched the twin towers come down on TV that morning. When I wen to work on that afternoon shift I was numb with grief and sorrow. Several muslims came up to me shook my hand and said sorry, not from guilt but real human sadness at such atrocities. But their were some working away in glee, unable to hide their happiness that hundreds of Americans were killed and by muslim extremists (as was now highly suspected). Those muslims that were overjoyed by this news were women for what its worth.

Yes there are moderate muslims in this world, there are even muslims appalled by the brutality of muslim extremism. for this I point you to the work of the Quilliam Foundation and its founder Maajid Nawaz, a former islamist. but there are far too many that take the quoran literally. One just has to remember how many innocent people died because one Danish paper published cartoons of mohammed. There are over 1.57 billion muslims in the world. If only 1% devout islamists or mohammedan that would mean 157,000,000 potential suspect hell bent on the destruction of the infidel western world. The fundamentalists are far greater than 1% and so many are congregating in Iraq and Syria.
The "Syrian" refugees that the western world countries are not just Syrian refugees. Identification from numerous other Islamic countries being strewn across Greek beaches upon landing in Europe. The thousands of migrants clogging up Calais in hopes of getting into Britain are from North Africa. the most disturbing thing is those coming through Turkey are mostly young men, where are all the women and children? ISIL has said that they will send there members to the western world. They are achieving this, the Turkish/Syrian border is too porous to stop them. There has already a number of lone wold terrorist attack in this country from homegrown or seemingly assimilated muslim zealots and now we are going to import more?

[N_Fiddledog]

romanP romanP:

Zimbabweans were enslaved by white people for centuries, and all of the violence they have learned was taught to them by white people.

what did you want to tell me about Zimbabwe?

How about this?

$1:

The arrival of Islam in Zimbabwe dates to the fourth Hijri century when Muslims established emirates on the coast of East Africa. During that period slave merchants extended their business to the interior regions reaching Zimbabwe. Over a period of hundreds of years more than four million slaves were stolen from Zimbabwe and surrounding countries and exported from Swahili ports by traders to India.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Zimbabwe

As long as we're talking history, I mean. Fourth century Hijri would be 11th century by the calendar the civilized world uses, I think. Around there anyway.

I don't think the Portuguese arrived in Zimbabwe until the 16th century our time. That would be when Europeans began dealing with African and Muslim slave merchants for slaves to send to South American plantations. Four or five hundred years after the Muslims began slaving in Zimbabwe.

[N_Fiddledog]

And btw, when did facts become "tirades"?

This, for example from the site you accuse of "tirades" is a fact.

[romanP]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And btw, when did facts become "tirades"?

This, for example from the site you accuse of "tirades" is a fact.

an image that anyone could create with photoshop is a fact? wow, you're really loose on the definition of "facts" aren't you?

what's next, are you going to start quoting NaturalNews at me?

[Thanos]

If you were against oppression like you claim you are then you'd be against militant Islam because it is the worst and most oppressive totalitarian force operating in this world since the days of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. You're just another self-loathing Western liberal that hates your own society so much that you've propagandized yourself into believing that if someone is against us then by default they must be good.

[romanP]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

I don't think the Portuguese arrived in Zimbabwe until the 16th century our time. That would be when Europeans began dealing with African and Muslim slave merchants for slaves to send to South American plantations. Four or five hundred years after the Muslims began slaving in Zimbabwe.

but that is the recent history of Zimbabwe, and the consequences of white slavery are what Black people around the world are still facing today. as far as i can tell, the only people identifying as Muslims today who are engaging in slavery are ISIS, and most Muslims consider them to about as Muslim as David Koresh was Christian. white American private prison owners, on the other hand, have ramped up Black slavery to a degree approaching pre-Civil Rights violence by means of prison labour and imprisoning a highly disproportionate amount of Black people.

[romanP]

Thanos Thanos:

If you were against oppression like you claim then you'd be against militant Islam because it is the worst and most oppressive totalitarian force operating in this world since the days of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

militant Islam as defined by whom? Hamas and ISIS are not made of the same fabric. one is a resistance group, defending Palestinians and their history from Israeli genocide, the other is a bunch of violent fanatics whose only goal seems to be destroying all history that doesn't fit their ideology and enslaving anyone they capture. Islam itself is a revolutionary, militant religion. Muhammad declared that if a Muslim is attacked, they must defend themselves. not everyone who calls themself a Muslim interprets his reason for saying this in the same way.

[Thanos]

That's a con. The Palestinian groups are just as totalitarian and oppressive, especially towards women, as the ISIS and Taliban types are. They're as likely to install sharia over their own state as the Sunni Wahabbist are.

[N_Fiddledog]

romanP romanP:

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

And btw, when did facts become "tirades"?

This, for example from the site you accuse of "tirades" is a fact.

an image that anyone could create with photoshop is a fact? wow, you're really loose on the definition of "facts" aren't you?

No. Those incidents are all archived on the site. If you are challenging any of them as incorrect, please tell me which one. We can double-check together.

If you scroll to the bottom of the front page, all incidents for the last month are archived there.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

If you're too lazy or realize now you are wrong, admit it.

[romanP]

Thanos Thanos:

That's a con. The Palestinian groups are just as totalitarian and oppressive, especially towards women, as the ISIS and Taliban types are. They're as likely to install sharia over their own state as the Sunni Wahabbist are.

based on what? your racist conspiracy website's ramblings?