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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:44 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: romanP romanP: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: And btw, when did facts become "tirades"? This, for example from the site you accuse of "tirades" is a fact.  an image that anyone could create with photoshop is a fact? wow, you're really loose on the definition of "facts" aren't you? No. Those incidents are all archived on the site. If you are challenging any of them as incorrect, please tell me which one. We can double-check together. If you scroll to the bottom of the front page, all incidents for the last month are archived there. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/If you're too lazy or realize now you are wrong, admit it. google can also produce lots of crazy things about how vaccines are killing us all, complete with dozens of websites "backing things up". your conspiracy theory website isn't better than theirs.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 4:59 pm
romanP romanP: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: I don't think the Portuguese arrived in Zimbabwe until the 16th century our time. That would be when Europeans began dealing with African and Muslim slave merchants for slaves to send to South American plantations. Four or five hundred years after the Muslims began slaving in Zimbabwe. but that is the recent history of Zimbabwe, and the consequences of white slavery are what Black people around the world are still facing today. as far as i can tell, the only people identifying as Muslims today who are engaging in slavery are ISIS, and most Muslims consider them to about as Muslim as David Koresh was Christian. white American private prison owners, on the other hand, have ramped up Black slavery to a degree approaching pre-Civil Rights violence by means of prison labour and imprisoning a highly disproportionate amount of Black people. I'm not sure I understand your point. Originally you wanted to be talking Zimbabwe. If I understand correctly you no longer wish to discuss the origins of slavery in Zimbabwe. I understand that. It is apparent you now realize, those origins are Islamic. I think you are trying to say the influence of slavery (and yes it still exists) has changed. Kind of. Here's what it look like now. "Scores of foreigners, mostly Asians of Pakistan origin have been smuggled into the country, where they perceive huge opportunities to engage in illicit activities.
Immigration officials and the police have managed to bust trafficking rings involving nationals from Pakistan, Rwanda, Burundi and Somalia.
Evidence abounds in the country of the organised human trafficking rings whose roots have been traced back to such countries as Pakistan. "http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/old/ma ... tml#link16I'm not sure where you see this "black and white thing" in the Zimbabwe slavery situation. Clarify.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:06 pm
romanP romanP: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: No. Those incidents are all archived on the site. If you are challenging any of them as incorrect, please tell me which one. We can double-check together. If you scroll to the bottom of the front page, all incidents for the last month are archived there. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/If you're too lazy or realize now you are wrong, admit it. google can also produce lots of crazy things about how vaccines are killing us all, complete with dozens of websites "backing things up". your conspiracy theory website isn't better than theirs. Well I'm hoping if you ever muster up the courage to specify which news stories you are claiming are false we can find their origins. Then if you still want to challenge those, you can tell me what reference source you will acknowledge as credible, if not those. I'm sorry but I cannot accept what seems to be your primary source of "out your butt".
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:37 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: romanP romanP: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: I don't think the Portuguese arrived in Zimbabwe until the 16th century our time. That would be when Europeans began dealing with African and Muslim slave merchants for slaves to send to South American plantations. Four or five hundred years after the Muslims began slaving in Zimbabwe. but that is the recent history of Zimbabwe, and the consequences of white slavery are what Black people around the world are still facing today. as far as i can tell, the only people identifying as Muslims today who are engaging in slavery are ISIS, and most Muslims consider them to about as Muslim as David Koresh was Christian. white American private prison owners, on the other hand, have ramped up Black slavery to a degree approaching pre-Civil Rights violence by means of prison labour and imprisoning a highly disproportionate amount of Black people. I'm not sure I understand your point. Originally you wanted to be talking Zimbabwe. no, originally i said that white people do not experience racism, and therefor white people cannot define racism. Freakinoldguy derailed it by making a reference to Zimbabwe, where white people have caused racist violence which has led to the condition of that nation state today.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:40 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: romanP romanP: N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: No. Those incidents are all archived on the site. If you are challenging any of them as incorrect, please tell me which one. We can double-check together. If you scroll to the bottom of the front page, all incidents for the last month are archived there. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/If you're too lazy or realize now you are wrong, admit it. google can also produce lots of crazy things about how vaccines are killing us all, complete with dozens of websites "backing things up". your conspiracy theory website isn't better than theirs. Well I'm hoping if you ever muster up the courage to specify which news stories you are claiming are false we can find their origins. Then if you still want to challenge those, you can tell me what reference source you will acknowledge as credible, if not those. I'm sorry but I cannot accept what seems to be your primary source of "out your butt". might as well be trying to disprove the existence of dragons and unicorns to a four year old.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:45 pm
romanP romanP: no, just one:
1) racists write the legislation and people like BartSimpson keep them employed We are not obligated to take in anyone if we do not wish to.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:50 pm
romanP romanP: might as well be trying to disprove the existence of dragons and unicorns to a four year old.
You still believe in dragons and unicorns?
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:00 pm
Sorry guys, 1978 no mention of Muslims for your Holy Anthem... $1: Today, institutions fundamental To the British system of government are under attack The public schools, the house of lords The church of England, the holy institution of marriage Even our magnificent police force are no longer safe From those who would undermine our society
And it's about time we said 'Enough is enough' And saw a return to the traditional British values of discipline Obedience, morality and freedom What we want is
Freedom from the reds and the blacks and the criminals Prostitutes, pansies and punks Football hooligans, juvenile delinquents Lesbians and left wing scum
Freedom from the niggers and the Pakis and the unions Freedom from the gypsies and the Jews Freedom from left wing layabouts and liberals Freedom from the likes of you
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:21 pm
romanP romanP: might as well be trying to disprove the existence of dragons and unicorns to a four year old.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:57 pm
romanP romanP: no, originally i said that white people do not experience racism, and therefor white people cannot define racism. Freakinoldguy derailed it by making a reference to Zimbabwe, where white people have caused racist violence which has led to the condition of that nation state today. Nuh uh. Not when I came into this. You were bragging about your superior knowledge concerning Zimbabwe. Just as with everything else, it turns out that when challenged you don't know diddly about it. Right Dragonslayer. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:16 pm
But hey, if the way the thread has been diverted is a problem for the Dragonslayer we can go back to the original subject of the thread.
"Mistakes we keep repeating when it comes to regugees", right?
The Polish member of the European parliament has an opinion on the subject.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:01 pm
N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog: romanP romanP: no, originally i said that white people do not experience racism, and therefor white people cannot define racism. Freakinoldguy derailed it by making a reference to Zimbabwe, where white people have caused racist violence which has led to the condition of that nation state today. Nuh uh. Not when I came into this. You were bragging about your superior knowledge concerning Zimbabwe. Just as with everything else, it turns out that when challenged you don't know diddly about it. Right Dragonslayer.  nope, the topic was the definition of racism written in the dictionary not being a valid one because it was written by people who don't experience racism. you don't get trump because you didn't read the thread.
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:08 pm
romanP romanP: nope, the topic was the definition of racism written in the dictionary not being a valid one because it was written by people who don't experience racism. you don't get trump because you didn't read the thread.
Um, that's not how I works. A dictionary exists to define he meaning of words. It is a reference for education purposes. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:37 pm
romanP romanP: nope, the topic was the definition of racism written in the dictionary not being a valid one because it was written by people who don't experience racism. you don't get trump because you didn't read the thread.
No numbskull, the topic is written at the top of the page as the title of the thread. Now if that was diverted, that's unfortunate, but I know where I jumped on the diversion train. It was where you were trying to brag about what you saw as your superior knowledge on something you obviously knew nothing about. I jumped on, cuffed you about the ears with a few actual facts, and now I'm jumping off, pointing my finger at you and laughing as you roll away with an "Oh dear, I just been debate-raped" look on your goofy persona. 
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Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:28 pm
romanP romanP: Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy: romanP romanP: your dictionary was written by white people. racism cannot be defined by those who are incapable of experiencing it. Given the puerility of that statement I can only assume you've never been to Zimbabwe?  i doubt you have either, but i do know people who came from Zimbabwe, one of whom was beaten within an inch of his life for being involved in activism. the creation of the nation state we now know as Zimbabwe came from a discovery by Dutch archaeologists who found ancient structures they did not believe Africans could have built and believed they must have come from some extinct white tribe. Zimbabweans were enslaved by white people for centuries, and all of the violence they have learned was taught to them by white people. what did you want to tell me about Zimbabwe? Nothing. Apparently your history teacher was a complete dunder head so any attempt to change your misinformed view of history will likely be met with the same anti white rhetoric you've been pedaling on here for years. But since you asked. Could you tell me why you have such a penchant for revisionist history since the part of your lesson where all the Blacks were taught by their Colonial masters to be violent was especially enlightening especially if you're to be believed, because before the arrival of the Europeans, Rhodesia and all of Africa was nothing but Unicorns and Rainbows. Oh, and by the way you may want to ask the person who gave you the history lesson why the first Europeans to be active in Zimbabwe were the Portuguese not the Boers? And, while you're at it you might want to try Googling the name "Mzilikazi a Zulu leader who was the real creator of the what we now call Zimbabwe. So, to be fair it wasn't Cecil Rhodes or the Boers who founded Zimbabwe but a Zulu rebel from South Africa. ![Drink up [B-o]](./images/smilies/drinkup.gif)
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