[BeaverFever]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

1) why do you say the fish co is "barely profitable?" Did you just make that up?
2) So if somebody comits wrongdoing, everybody of the same race as the wrongdoer has to be punished for it?

Dauphin River Fisheries Co Ltd
Address:
2 Anama Bay Blk 4 # 1,
Gypsumville MB,
R0C 1J0
Sales:
$500,000 - $1 Million
Employees:
Approximately: three employees work at this locat


So you do the math. If they're worth 1/9 of a billion dollars like they claim yet are only making five hundred thousand to a million dollars a year IMO they're a barely profitable company.

But I guess my estimation of whats profitable and what's not could be taken in the same vein as your "act of god" assumption.

Ummm...no. I guess you dont understand business or lawsuits. Theres no way of knowing whether theyre profitable or no from the info provided, or what their portion of the lawsuit represents; there are undoubtedly punitive amounts plus damage and repairs etc that would not relate to whether the biz is profitable I would guess that 500k-1M isnt bad for a company with 3 employees.

And as I said, lawsuits by nature deliberately inflate claims but Tue actual settlement or award, if any, is almost always much less.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I make no bones about the fact that I dispise Native people based on over a decade of experience dealing with these people.

See.. Here's a guy who takes pride in being a racist. Good on you OTI. Own it.

I love how everything these days is called racist.

You don't like the brown guy down the street, you're a bigot. You get harassed by Natives for 10+ years and you don't like them, you're called a "racist".

It doesn't matter why you don't like them....you're a racist just for saying you do.

[OnTheIce]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Ummm...no. I guess you dont understand business or lawsuits. Theres no way of knowing whether theyre profitable or no from the info provided, or what their portion of the lawsuit represents; there are undoubtedly punitive amounts plus damage and repairs etc that would not relate to whether the biz is profitable I would guess that 500k-1M isnt bad for a company with 3 employees.

And as I said, lawsuits by nature deliberately inflate claims but Tue actual settlement or award, if any, is almost always much less.

Being the business expert that you are, how do they catch the fish....snorkel and mask?

[Curtman]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I make no bones about the fact that I dispise Native people based on over a decade of experience dealing with these people.

See.. Here's a guy who takes pride in being a racist. Good on you OTI. Own it.

I love how everything these days is called racist.

You don't like the brown guy down the street, you're a bigot. You get harassed by Natives for 10+ years and you don't like them, you're called a "racist".

It doesn't matter why you don't like them....you're a racist just for saying you do.

Not everything. Just you. You despise 1.3 million Canadians because of the colour of their skin, that makes you a racist.

[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Curtman Curtman:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

I make no bones about the fact that I dispise Native people based on over a decade of experience dealing with these people.

See.. Here's a guy who takes pride in being a racist. Good on you OTI. Own it.

I love how everything these days is called racist.

You don't like the brown guy down the street, you're a bigot. You get harassed by Natives for 10+ years and you don't like them, you're called a "racist".

It doesn't matter why you don't like them....you're a racist just for saying you do.

No, you can judge an INDIVIDUAL based on that INDIVIDUAL'S behaviour. If you judge an INDIVIDUAL based on somebody else's behaviour because they happen to be the same race, you are a racist. How do you not undertand that?

If you told you met these 9 Natives in Manitoba and they were low-lifes, then fine. But you are saying they are low-lifes because they happen to be of the same race as people you met in a different part of the country.

[andyt]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

1) why do you say the fish co is "barely profitable?" Did you just make that up?
2) So if somebody comits wrongdoing, everybody of the same race as the wrongdoer has to be punished for it?

Dauphin River Fisheries Co Ltd
Address:
2 Anama Bay Blk 4 # 1,
Gypsumville MB,
R0C 1J0
Sales:
$500,000 - $1 Million
Employees:
Approximately: three employees work at this locat


So you do the math. If they're worth 1/9 of a billion dollars like they claim yet are only making five hundred thousand to a million dollars a year IMO they're a barely profitable company.

But I guess my estimation of whats profitable and what's not could be taken in the same vein as your "act of god" assumption.

Three employees pull in up to a million a year, even only 500k - that's a pretty good business. Say 100,000k a year in wages - unless their raw material costs are way high, this business should show a good profit.

As Beaver says, the lawsuit starts high to settle for less. Don't see what any of this has to do with the race of the plaintiffs - you see that sort of thing everyday, with plaintiffs of all colors.

[OnTheIce]

Curtman Curtman:

Not everything. Just you. You despise 1.3 million Canadians because of the colour of their skin, that makes you a racist.

No, I judge these people not on how they look or the colour of their skin, I judge them on how my family and I were treated by this certain group of people. I also judge them on how they treat one another.

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

No, you can judge an INDIVIDUAL based on that INDIVIDUAL'S behaviour. If you judge an INDIVIDUAL based on somebody else's behaviour because they happen to be the same race, you are a racist. How do you not undertand that?

If you told you met these 9 Natives in Manitoba and they were low-lifes, then fine. But you are saying they are low-lifes because they happen to be of the same race as people you met in a different part of the country.

My opinions are not based on my dealings with 1 Native person. My experience and opinions were formed during a decade + of living and dealing with Native Canadians.

The sooner we put down the race card, stop pretending to be offended and deal with real issues within the Native community, we'll still be here a generation from now.

[Macguyver]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Joe Whitey doesn't typically sue the government due to nature or ask for ridiculous sums of money.

Really???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/s ... nment.html

1 billion $ - Wind farm lawsuit (April 3, 2012)

$300 Million natural gas lawsuit (the week before)


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/Ret ... story.html

Retired diplomat sues for swimming pool maintenance fees while posted in Dubai.

Plus the 15 Billion dollar Wheat Board lawsuit...

Plus Helena suing Steven

How about 50 Billion $ lawsuit against tobacco companies...

Ethyl Corporation's $251 million lawsuit against Canada

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/poli ... s-benefits

$450 million Dollar class action against Canada - EI sickness benefits

Give me a fucking break. White people invented lawsuits.

And it is idiots like you that think that we can do whatever we want and then scream like a little baby when the Native sue us for using their lands and resources for our benefit but fail to love up to our obligations to them.

And I don't care too much for lawsuits, and I'm not all that displeased that when it is all said and done the Native Canadians will own a lot more of Canada than they presently do. Because given the nature of a bunch of you, we'll be in court getting our asses handed to us because for some reason many Canadians feel entitled to land that is really only theirs because of LEGAL BINDING AGREEMENTS between the crown and the First Nation groups.

You might argue that the poor natives, who live in third world conditions, have an unjust sense of entitlement. I'd say us rich white Canadians are the ones with an unreasonable sense of entitlement, because we think that we can live in this country on someone else's land without just compensation to those people.

Really, if we don't honor our promises we're just squatters in our own country. Argue all you want...when the dam bursts and we're forced to pay through the courts you can tell the judge you disagree.

[Macguyver]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

My opinions are not based on my dealings with 1 Native person. My experience and opinions were formed during a decade + of living and dealing with Native Canadians.

The sooner we put down the race card, stop pretending to be offended and deal with real issues within the Native community, we'll still be here a generation from now.

Ya, so you've lumped all the natives into a pile because of your experience. Good job, that is not racist at all. [/sarcasm]

[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Curtman Curtman:

Not everything. Just you. You despise 1.3 million Canadians because of the colour of their skin, that makes you a racist.

No, I judge these people not on how they look or the colour of their skin, I judge them on how my family and I were treated by this certain group of people. I also judge them on how they treat one another.

....My opinions are not based on my dealings with 1 Native person. My experience and opinions were formed during a decade + of living and dealing with Native Canadians.

The sooner we put down the race card, stop pretending to be offended and deal with real issues within the Native community, we'll still be here a generation from now.

Are you retarded or just a slow learner??? "I'm not racist, I just make assumptions about a peson's character based on what race they are". Brilliant Einstein.

Let me break it down for you in simpler terms, since you obviously have problems grasping concepts:

1)You did not meet these 9 invidivuals
2) You make assumptions about the character of these 9 individuals because they are the same race as others you have met (doesn't matter whether it's 1 or 100,000)
3) = the literal definition of racism.

[OnTheIce]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Are you retarded or just a slow learner??? "I'm not racist, I just make assumptions about a peson's character based on what race they are". Brilliant Einstein.

Let me break it down for you in simpler terms, since you obviously have problems grasping concepts:

1)You did not meet these 9 invidivuals
2) You make assumptions about the character of these 9 individuals because they are the same race as others you have met (doesn't matter whether it's 1 or 100,000)
3) = the literal definition of racism.

If me not liking a certain group of people because of my experience with them makes me a racist, fine....I'm not going to pretend to like a bunch of people to avoid being called something that means nothing to me.

We all make assumptions about people based on our impressions and experiences...so stop pretending otherwise.

We all stereotype, we all make assumptions about people based on how they look and where they're from. We all have a little racism & biggotry inside.

Get off your high horse.

[OnTheIce]

Macguyver Macguyver:

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

Joe Whitey doesn't typically sue the government due to nature or ask for ridiculous sums of money.

Really???

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/s ... nment.html

1 billion $ - Wind farm lawsuit (April 3, 2012)

$300 Million natural gas lawsuit (the week before)


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/travel/Ret ... story.html

Retired diplomat sues for swimming pool maintenance fees while posted in Dubai.

Plus the 15 Billion dollar Wheat Board lawsuit...

Plus Helena suing Steven

How about 50 Billion $ lawsuit against tobacco companies...

Ethyl Corporation's $251 million lawsuit against Canada

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/poli ... s-benefits

$450 million Dollar class action against Canada - EI sickness benefits

Give me a fucking break. White people invented lawsuits.

And it is idiots like you that think that we can do whatever we want and then scream like a little baby when the Native sue us for using their lands and resources for our benefit but fail to love up to our obligations to them.

And I don't care too much for lawsuits, and I'm not all that displeased that when it is all said and done the Native Canadians will own a lot more of Canada than they presently do. Because given the nature of a bunch of you, we'll be in court getting our asses handed to us because for some reason many Canadians feel entitled to land that is really only theirs because of LEGAL BINDING AGREEMENTS between the crown and the First Nation groups.

You might argue that the poor natives, who live in third world conditions, have an unjust sense of entitlement. I'd say us rich white Canadians are the ones with an unreasonable sense of entitlement, because we think that we can live in this country on someone else's land without just compensation to those people.

Really, if we don't honor our promises we're just squatters in our own country. Argue all you want...when the dam bursts and we're forced to pay through the courts you can tell the judge you disagree.

You're delusional.

[BeaverFever]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Are you retarded or just a slow learner??? "I'm not racist, I just make assumptions about a peson's character based on what race they are". Brilliant Einstein.

Let me break it down for you in simpler terms, since you obviously have problems grasping concepts:

1)You did not meet these 9 invidivuals
2) You make assumptions about the character of these 9 individuals because they are the same race as others you have met (doesn't matter whether it's 1 or 100,000)
3) = the literal definition of racism.

If me not liking a certain group of people because of my experience with them makes me a racist, fine....I'm not going to pretend to like a bunch of people to avoid being called something that means nothing to me.

We all make assumptions about people based on our impressions and experiences...so stop pretending otherwise.

We all stereotype, we all make assumptions about people based on how they look and where they're from. We all have a little racism & biggotry inside.

Get off your high horse.

You don't like an entire race of people because of your experience with SOME members of that race. You are assuming (falsely) that all members of a race are the same character, regardless of their individual upbrining and life experience. I guess with all the horrible things that KKK has done to black people, you must agree that black people should hate all Whites and should assume youre a cross-burner too. Similarly, we should all hate Bill Cosby and Morgan Freeman for things that black gang members do, since you've clearly established that everybody who belongs to the same race is the same.

While we all make assumptions about people based on their individual traits, personal hygene, socio-economic class etc. You are the only one on this fomum openly advocating that we not judge them as individuals but according to what race they belong to. And yes, whether we like it or not, we all cary some personal bias based on our experiences. But again, you are alone in that you are the only one embracing and celebrating your bias, whereas the rest of us recognize it as a human failing, try to recognize it when it occurs, and try to overcome it.

IMO you have exposed yourself on this forum to be a small-minded, ignorant and self-righteous bigot, as blind to your own obvious intellectual shortcomings as you are to the realities of this world and have forever foreited all credibility on this forum. Go move to Alabama where you belong.

[peck420]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

Go move to Alabama where you belong.

Would this not be an equally ignorant assumption about the people of Alabama?

I know it is nitpicky, but you can defend intolerance with intolerance.

[BeaverFever]

$1:

Would this not be an equally ignorant assumption about the people of Alabama?

Nope, see that's where the line is that OTI can't understand. I'm not making any statement that all of "the people of Alabama" are racist. But we all know that those of them who are racist, flourish there.

It's not racist to say that crime flourishes on FN reservations, that's a fact. It's racist to say that all FN are criminals, by virtue of the fact that they are FN.