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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:06 pm
 


Title: Montreal police, coroner investigating owner of seniors' residence where 31 died in less than 1 month
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Date: 2020-04-13 12:02:27
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:06 pm
 


This whole story is sickening. People in end of life care should be treated better than we treat animals about to die.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:46 pm
 


No shit.
Disgusting to hear of people in shit-stained beds dying of thirst and neglect while being hosed $5000 a month!
Makes you want to demand they send the Army in to take over and nationalize these laces.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:29 pm
 


of course i can't find it now but one of these cbc articles on this incident had quoted some guy who casually mentioned that the workers in these fucking death traps get paid minimum wage ($12.50)

i sincerely hope that isn't true

just another thing that should infuriate folks.
the care homes were an already-falling house of cards


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:14 pm
 


Free market at work. For $10000 a month per room the residents get to die in shit-filled diapers, the owner gets a nice big bank account in the Caymans, and the public system has to step in and cover the cost of rescuing the survivors. That guy, my friends, is what a job-and-wealth creating titan who doesn't care about no damn regulations or boundaries on his entrepreneurial sprit looks like. We should be on our knees thanking him for showing us what The World According to Ayn Rand looks like!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:11 pm
 


Never been inside one? Perhaps the shit pay has something to do with the fact that if they did stop immigration, this would've been a 'gold standard' nursing home.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:15 pm
 


My mom was in one for the last two months of her life back in 2016. All I know for a fact afterwards that is I'll be taking my destiny in my own hands and writing the end to my story by sticking a pistol in my mouth before anyone ever puts me in one of those places.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:16 pm
 


Told the wife to just wheel me out to the middle of the bridge if I ever get like that...
both my parents were in one for years. No problems at all, but as I alluded to 75% of the staff were immigrants. Did everything, but couldn't speak enough English to tell you what or why.


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I think it's one of those things where the immigrants end up with those jobs because home-born people just don't want to take them. It's a terrible gig, for that kind of pay, being in places that depression and grief-filled. I know I couldn't do. The worst day of my life was the one where my mom first went in, after she'd already been in the regular hospital for two straight months; she was bad at that point and never went back to her apartment again. To me that day was even worse than the day she died. It was a nice enough place, with none of the horror stories around it. But everyone knew that this was The End for her. And there's no way for the occupant or their family to get over that realization when it happens. I suspect that with this one in Quebec it was nice enough on the surface, before the shit went down with the staff running away in panic and the owner/manager nowhere to be found. For $10K a month for some of those residents it better have been at least nice enough of the surface. Places like that in general though? No veneer of niceness can ever cover up what those residences are. They have a nice green area at the dog pound too where they can go out every once in a while to get out of the kennels. That doesn't mean that most of the animals there don't end up as smoke coming out of the incinerator sooner rather than later. Nursing homes - the saddest physical definitions of It Is What It Is that anyone will find anywhere in this society. :|


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:19 pm
 


DrCaleb wrote:


Shocking stuff. In my neck of the woods, nursing homes are one of the few ways left to make a fortune which tends to attract all sorts of people into the business, none that I know of quite like that character, though. Residents are sitting ducks right now

In some countries, they have a mechanism for civil forfeiture. In other words, the govt simply seizes the assets of a career criminal and says we’ll give this back to you if you can show how you earned the money for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Assets_Bureau


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Sunnyways wrote:
In some countries, they have a mechanism for civil forfeiture. In other words, the govt simply seizes the assets of a career criminal and says we’ll give this back to you if you can show how you earned the money for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Assets_Bureau


We have this here, but the onus is put on the person to prove they did not receive the asset as proceeds of a crime. This means things you already own can be seized as proceeds of a crime, even if you owned them before the crime allegedly took place.


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DrCaleb wrote:
Sunnyways wrote:
In some countries, they have a mechanism for civil forfeiture. In other words, the govt simply seizes the assets of a career criminal and says we’ll give this back to you if you can show how you earned the money for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Assets_Bureau


We have this here, but the onus is put on the person to prove they did not receive the asset as proceeds of a crime. This means things you already own can be seized as proceeds of a crime, even if you owned them before the crime allegedly took place.


Thank you. It sounds a bit arbitrary and petty in some cases:

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In one case, a man in Saskatchewan sold $60 worth of Oxycontin he legally owned to buy gas so he could drive to work. The government took away his $7,500 truck.

One Ontario couple saw their $400,000 12-unit apartment building seized because some renters were involved in illegal activities. The province argued they should have evicted the tenants. In another Ontario case, the province sought to confiscate a couple’s two rooming houses because some tenants allegedly sold drugs.


https://globalnews.ca/news/2565007/seiz ... ort-finds/


I’d prefer to see major drug kingpins targeted, serious criminals. BTW what does a 400,000 dollar 12 unit apartment building look like in Ontario? Sounds fairly Spartan.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:12 am
 


I don't know. I just recall egregious examples of it being used.


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